G51 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 This could have been a really good competition if they'd prevented the big 5 leagues from joining it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, G51 said: This could have been a really good competition if they'd prevented the big 5 leagues from joining it. I'm surprised the big 5 want anything to do with it. Although based on this year it would've been Granada, Spurs, Wolfsburg, AC Milan and Reims so possibly some of them would take it seriously enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Spreadsheet with the predicted groups based on current league positions and seedings: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=4FE4712A1E3EA4FA!301&ithint=file%2Cxlsx&authkey=!AI0j65LlMWkMofc Currently Aberdeen could be facing Barcelona, Feyenoord, and some pot 4 diddy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 11/09/2018 at 03:16, Marten said: Aberdeen v Real Madrid Colts, I bet the Dons fans are already excited about that... I doubt Aberdeen would get far enough in the competition to get Real Madrid U18s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said: I'm surprised the big 5 want anything to do with it. Although based on this year it would've been Granada, Spurs, Wolfsburg, AC Milan and Reims so possibly some of them would take it seriously enough. I am as well. There was a chance to build a genuinely good competition for the diddy nations here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The final's in f*cking Albania??? Are they even trying to not make this look tinpot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, G51 said: This could have been a really good competition if they'd prevented the big 5 leagues from joining it. It will be utterly depressing when the final is contested by the 6th place team from Spain play the 7th place team from Germany in the final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: It will be utterly depressing when the final is contested by the 6th place team from Spain play the 7th place team from Germany in the final. You mean the prospect of a Burnley - Villarreal final in Albania doesn't excite you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Spreadsheet with the predicted groups based on current league positions and seedings: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=4FE4712A1E3EA4FA!301&ithint=file%2Cxlsx&authkey=!AI0j65LlMWkMofc Currently Aberdeen could be facing Barcelona, Feyenoord, and some pot 4 diddy.OK, am I right in thinking that whoever finishes 3rd/wins the cup, will get pumped up a level in Europa League qualifying because there is no Conference League title holder in 2021/22.So Turkey 3/cw go directly into groups. Denmark and Scotland go into PO and there are only 4 teams in the Main Path Q3 (Czech and 3x CL losers) for 2 spots in the PO round.So Playoff Round Direct entrants areAssoc 8-14 (7 teams) directly into PO round6 CL Losers from Champions Q32 from Main path as explained above5 winners from the 10 CL losers from Champions Q2= 20 teams for remaining 10 spots.Correct??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 OK, am I right in thinking that whoever finishes 3rd/wins the cup, will get pumped up a level in Europa League qualifying because there is no Conference League title holder in 2021/22.So Turkey 3/cw go directly into groups. Denmark and Scotland go into PO and there are only 4 teams in the Main Path Q3 (Czech and 3x CL losers) for 2 spots in the PO round.So Playoff Round Direct entrants areAssoc 8-14 (7 teams) directly into PO round6 CL Losers from Champions Q32 from Main path as explained above5 winners from the 10 CL losers from Champions Q2= 20 teams for remaining 10 spots.Correct??? That is the expectation. UEFA probably won't confirm it for a while though.CW/3rd in 2022/23 is also very close to being guaranteed the same. If Sivasspor don't win next week we won't fall below 12th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 That is the expectation. UEFA probably won't confirm it for a while though.CW/3rd in 2022/23 is also very close to being guaranteed the same. If Sivasspor don't win next week we won't fall below 12th.I'm not sure that would be the case though. A quick bit of research shows that if Scotland's runners up were to lose in CL Q2, they would be put into Europa Q3 and have to win two ties to qualify for the Europa Gp Stage and face the prospect of no guaranteed group stage football at all. Surely Uefa wouldn't have the team finishing 3rd/Cup winners at an advantage over the team finishing 2nd?? Or is there precedent here and this has happened in the past?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, 10menwent2mow said: 5 hours ago, charger29 said: That is the expectation. UEFA probably won't confirm it for a while though. CW/3rd in 2022/23 is also very close to being guaranteed the same. If Sivasspor don't win next week we won't fall below 12th. I'm not sure that would be the case though. A quick bit of research shows that if Scotland's runners up were to lose in CL Q2, they would be put into Europa Q3 and have to win two ties to qualify for the Europa Gp Stage and face the prospect of no guaranteed group stage football at all. Surely Uefa wouldn't have the team finishing 3rd/Cup winners at an advantage over the team finishing 2nd?? Or is there precedent here and this has happened in the past?? You're correct in your previous post about Aberdeen going into EL PO, it's basically all but confirmed as that's what UEFA's regulations call for with the redistribution due to the lack of ECL title holder. I would still say 2nd place still have an advantage, as they get the chance to qualify for the CL. Plus, if the EL winners qualify via their league placing, there will be more reshuffling which is likely to see our 2nd place go into EL PO if they lose in CL Q2, so guaranteed ECL GS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 19 hours ago, G51 said: This could have been a really good competition if they'd prevented the big 5 leagues from joining it. great comp for giving minutes to young english players, especially now brexit is going to make the best kids in europe out of reach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: It will be utterly depressing when the final is contested by the 6th place team from Spain play the 7th place team from Germany in the final. not for UEFA it wouldnt, you could have Valencia, Newcastle Utd, Eintract Frankfurt and Fiorentina all semi finalist 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'm not sure that would be the case though. A quick bit of research shows that if Scotland's runners up were to lose in CL Q2, they would be put into Europa Q3 and have to win two ties to qualify for the Europa Gp Stage and face the prospect of no guaranteed group stage football at all. Surely Uefa wouldn't have the team finishing 3rd/Cup winners at an advantage over the team finishing 2nd?? Or is there precedent here and this has happened in the past?? To add a bit to what Ginaro said above, I asked the same question on the kassiesa forums a few months ago and Bert responded: The current EL regulations give priority to cup winners (see Annex A):"If the access list needs to be adjusted once all the participants are known and admitted, priority for the UEFA Europa League will be given to the domestic cup winners (in accordance with the entry stage as per the access list)."Presumably things will stay the same in the next set of regulations too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 You're correct in your previous post about Aberdeen going into EL PO, it's basically all but confirmed as that's what UEFA's regulations call for with the redistribution due to the lack of ECL title holder. I would still say 2nd place still have an advantage, as they get the chance to qualify for the CL. Plus, if the EL winners qualify via their league placing, there will be more reshuffling which is likely to see our 2nd place go into EL PO if they lose in CL Q2, so guaranteed ECL GS.I suppose so, cheers for the reply. It's something I take a bit of an interest in and I'm basically never off the kassiesa site during the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Gus Setsniffer said: not for UEFA it wouldnt, you could have Valencia, Newcastle Utd, Eintract Frankfurt and Fiorentina all semi finalist I mean that sounds exciting ngl. I'm all for it. It effectively means the Europa is like the Cup Winners' Cup and the ECL is the UEFA Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, ArabAuslander said: I mean that sounds exciting ngl. I'm all for it. It effectively means the Europa is like the Cup Winners' Cup and the ECL is the UEFA Cup. where's it going to end up being broadcast though ? You'd really need big named sides who aren't doing so well in their league, because viewing figures are all they care about, it'd be dropped like hot potato if St Johnstone played Royal Antwerp in the final 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 59 minutes ago, Gus Setsniffer said: where's it going to end up being broadcast though ? You'd really need big named sides who aren't doing so well in their league, because viewing figures are all they care about, it'd be dropped like hot potato if St Johnstone played Royal Antwerp in the final BT have bought the rights in the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I'm not sure that would be the case though. A quick bit of research shows that if Scotland's runners up were to lose in CL Q2, they would be put into Europa Q3 and have to win two ties to qualify for the Europa Gp Stage and face the prospect of no guaranteed group stage football at all. Surely Uefa wouldn't have the team finishing 3rd/Cup winners at an advantage over the team finishing 2nd?? Or is there precedent here and this has happened in the past?? The 2nd placed team get to compete in the Champions League, that's their advantage right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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