TheScarf Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, The_Judge said: Is he the new Darren Fletcher? A small cog in a brilliant club team expected to somehow transform Scotland's average players into something much better? That's the way I see it. As in folk think that, not that I think he should be transforming Scotland somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelheart Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Eyes just stopped bleeding after watching that Robertson or Tierney not both McKenna and Soutter centre halfs and persist with it till someone better comes along as Mulgrew needing replaced Mcdonald surely played last game Mcgregor outstanding in goals That’s what I got from that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I touched on this last night when people were complaining that he doesn't take a man on. At Liverpool he has the likes of Mane tucking inside to give him the freedom to get up the wing, he also knows if he loses the ball he has the quality behind him to clear up. If he loses the ball for Scotland, we have the prospect of Souttar clogging an attacking winger. Wouldn't be Souttar though, Tierney was his cover at the back last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Was hoping it was all a bad dream when I woke up this morning. Obviously not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopio Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 That will be 90 Minutes I am never getting back.... I listened to McLeish afterwards and I am now convinced he was watching a different game from me? They dominated us from start to finish, we got lucky with the penalty and their poor finishing otherwise it would have been worse! The Players are not exactly blameless either mind you...Robertson and Tierney were AWFUL, I actually thought Mulgrew played well before he went off. McDonald is terrible and is playing purely based on the fact of the league he plays in. I have said it many times and I will say it again, McGinn is completely overrated, not sure what the hype with him is but he is dreadful. I always stick with us through thick and thin but I will not watching any more games this season, sick of being let down time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, The_Judge said: Last Saturday night someone told me that Tommy Wright was a good manager doing a great job and that St Johnstone are always very well organised and hard to break down, they then added that Celtic were a shadow of the team they'd been in the last couple of seasons. Bloody fitba' eh . I think recent events have shown that neither team are organised or well-drilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'm honestly still trying to process thst performance. I honestly didn't think that group of 11 players could collectively fail so badly as a unit. The keeper was the only one to get pass marks. I'd happily never see some of those players in Scotland shirts ever again. It was Berti Vogts levels of ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, troopio said: I always stick with us through thick and thin but I will not watching any more games this season, sick of being let down time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbineTon Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 As much as McLeish will take the blame, the players need to take a right good look at themselves. That was a fucking disgusting performance of complete and utter ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieD Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Comrie said: I'm honestly still trying to process thst performance. I honestly didn't think that group of 11 players could collectively fail so badly as a unit. The keeper was the only one to get pass marks. I'd happily never see some of those players in Scotland shirts ever again. It was Berti Vogts levels of ineptitude. When did we look that bad and unorganised under Berti Vogts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, RobbieD said: When did we look that bad and unorganised under Berti Vogts? 5-0 friendly defeat in France in 2002. No shame in losing to such a good team but just look at our line up!! It's not been photo shopped for effect...that was the fucking team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4-1 defeat to South Korea two months later...I can't even use the 'no shame' line this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Tbf that France team is outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3-0 home defeat to Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Is it true that the Palestinians turned up last night waving Scotland flags demanding an end to the Israeli occupation of the Scottish penalty area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Why are the SFA continually arranging friendlies that we have zero chance of winning. Since 2016 we've played Italy (n), France (a), Canada (h), Holland (h), Costa Rica (h), Hungary (a), Mexico (a), peru (a), Belgium (h) and Portugal (h)Realistically we are going to get scudded in most of those fixtures. Arrange more friendlies against pish, yes its not going to sell tickets but it's an opportunity to take the team around the country, get some confidence in the players and improve the world ranking. You get more points for beating shite than getting scudded by the best teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, RobbieD said: When did we look that bad and unorganised under Berti Vogts? 4-0 defeat to Wales. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 If you've got zero chance of beating Canada on your own pitch then you're playing the wrong sport.I think you'll find that I say realistically we're going to get scudded in MOST of those fixtures. I included all the games in the interest of fairness. But good point well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: 6 minutes ago, The_Judge said: If you've got zero chance of beating Canada on your own pitch then you're playing the wrong sport. I think you'll find that I say realistically we're going to get scudded in MOST of those fixtures. I included all the games in the interest of fairness. But good point well made. You also suggested that by going around the country (playing against pish) we'd gain more confidence and improve the world ranking. Can't see how that 1-1 draw with Canada in front of 9,000 at Easter Road achieved either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieD Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, The_Judge said: 4-0 defeat to Wales. Case closed. Yeah to be fair that was worse but at least it was a friendly. In competitive games, he looked like Sir Alex Ferguson in comparison to McLeish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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