ICTJohnboy Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, 101 said: £18k fine for the Conservative party from the Electoral Commission for failing to declare where the flat refurb cash came from. Another sleaze scandal. Boris should be made to pay that fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: Morning, Douglas. Afternoon, Humza. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 My old MP and ex Director General has some views on Boris. (I voted for him once, but he was standing as an independent). Yours aDONis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Boris should be made to pay that fine. If he complains that his salary is too low for his needs, he's certainly not going to volunteer to do that! Kicking and screaming maybe. Perhaps he will ask a donor to pay it for him.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Boris should be made to pay that fine. Considering he's shat it at paying a £10k fines for all the alleged parties in his gaff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 No 10 denies claim Johnson lied to his standards adviser over flat refurbishment The Downing Street lobby briefing has just ended. It was particularly long because there were extensive questions on Covid and on the No 10 flat refurbishment. On the latter, Downing Street does not accept that Boris Johnson lied to Lord Geidt, the independent adviser on ministers’ interests (sometimes referred to as the independent adviser on ministerial standards), about the flat refurbishment. In fact, the spokesman specifically rejected the charge. Asked to explain the discrepancy between the Geidt report (pdf), which says Johnson told him he did not know Lord Brownlow had paid the flat refurbishment bills until “immediately prior to media reports in February 2021”, and the Electoral Commission report, which said that on 29 November 2020 Johnson messaged Brownlow via WhatsApp “asking him to authorise further, at that stage unspecified, refurbishment works”, the spokesman implied the WhatsApp conversation did not cover the full detail of how the money was being paid, and that this was why lying was not involved. The spokesman said: As as set out Lord Geidt’s report, the prime minister was not aware of the details of the underlying donor until immediately prior to media reports in February 2020, when he immediately saw the necessary advice about his interests, and as a consequence settled the amount himself. That was on 8 March. Lord Brownlow was appointed by the PM as chair of the trust on 23 June and Lord Geidt’s report notes that Lord Brownlow behaved in a confidential manner, consistent with his own experience with blind trusts. And despite the prime minister and Lord Brownlow having some limited contact during the following three months, the record shows no evidence that the prime minister had been informed by Lord Brownlow that he had personally settled the total costs. As you’ve seen, the Electoral Commission report shows Lord Brownls decision to cover the refurbishment costs personally came a day after his message to the prime minister. Asked specifically if the PM had lied to Lord Geidt, the spokeman said: “No.” He also said that Johnson had not lied to the public about this affair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 The problem for Johnson is that he's not a man who inspires loyalty....mainly because he has never in his life had any sense of loyalty to anyone other than himself. There are plenty of people that he's shoved under the bus either to further his career, or to save himself. That's how cowards work. Oh, he has staff around him at the moment to protect him to a certain extent, and like that Stratton woman some may even take a fall for him. But once push comes to shove, and these people see that Johnson's little empire is crumbling and is about to fall, he'll have no loyalty from anyone. That's when we'll hear what a chaotic shambles his time as PM has really been. Pass the popcorn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: The problem for Johnson is that he's not a man who inspires loyalty....mainly because he has never in his life had any sense of loyalty to anyone other than himself. There are plenty of people that he's shoved under the bus either to further his career, or to save himself. That's how cowards work. Oh, he has staff around him at the moment to protect him to a certain extent, and like that Stratton woman some may even take a fall for him. But once push comes to shove, and these people see that Johnson's little empire is crumbling and is about to fall, he'll have no loyalty from anyone. That's when we'll hear what a chaotic shambles his time as PM has really been. Pass the popcorn. There will be no popcorn. Tories will still be in power. There are more sinister fascists lurking about that party that want the top job. And ones who actually know what they are doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: There will be no popcorn. Tories will still be in power. There are more sinister fascists lurking about that party that want the top job. And ones who actually know what they are doing. Who are the sinister fascists? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Who's in cherge? Jocky in charge? Boris has took a few days off to spend time with the wean and deputy Rabb is self isolating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 The most pressing & important question has yet to be answered. Did any of the parties involve games of wiff waff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said: Who are the sinister fascists? Just have a good look at the Home Secretary for starters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Ouch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: Just have a good look at the Home Secretary for starters. What is your definition of a fascist? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Unaware of the details regarding the payments for his flat, unaware of the parties going on - the old wisdom for someone in BJs position was that you should be aware. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I wouldn't usually wish unemployment on a new father, but I reckon Boris is wealthy enough to stand it - just sack him now, plz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: Just have a good look at the Home Secretary for starters. Surely you don't mean fascist in the true sense of the word though? One of the most overused words nowadays.. that and 'racist'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I don't know how anyone can look down the list of fascist characteristics and deny that this, this current Tory party, is a quasi-fascist party. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: I don't know how anyone can look down the list of fascist characteristics and deny that this, this current Tory party, is a quasi-fascist party. Labour under Corbyn so their point has certainly moved and Lib Dems perhaps a little skewed due to a hangover from their Tory propping coalition days, but today's Tories are probably further up that corner having taken the UKIP and Brexit party core policies and vote. Tories on here wanting definitions of "racists" and "fascists" are off the chart. Edited December 9, 2021 by KingRocketman II typos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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