Dons_1988 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Well even taking away any 'official' connection - and agree that, "They are connected in every way , shape or form" is absolute bilge - then what is the connection between Rangers and the Orange Order? It really goes no further than a tiny* proportion of Rangers' support being Orangemen. Edit for clarity: If you lumped all of the members of the OO in attendance at an average home game I'd be surprised if you filled the away corner. You may add a few to the number if you include the actual away support - depending on which team we were playing. And how many of them would support Rangers? And would they all support them just because they're local Glasgow lads? ETA - the size of their membership isn't really relevant to the debate Edited September 3, 2019 by Dons_1988 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: And how many of them would support Rangers? And would they all support them just because they're local Glasgow lads? The point I was trying to make was that there can't be many more than 1,000 Orangemen at Ibrox for home games. It represents a small % of our support. Add in the acknowledgement that there's no official connection between the two organisations and you'll see that my contention was entirely justified. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCelt67 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I quite like flute music, you'd think that the Most Loyal Staunch Loyalist Proddy Ultra Loyal Proddy Prod Prod flute bands and the Finbarr McTerrorist James O'Connolly Balaclava Gang Bang Shamrock Muzak Collective could get together and bond over shared musical interests. Now That's What I Call Music 191690. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: The point I was trying to make was that there can't be many more than 1,000 Orangemen at Ibrox for home games. It represents a small % of our support. Add in the acknowledgement that there's no official connection between the two organisations and you'll see that my contention was entirely justified. OK, are all of them just local lads who are fans, or do some travel from Northern Ireland? If so, it's a strange choice of club for a Northern Irishman. And do all OO members who support Rangers regularly attend games or do they support from afar? ETA - How many people that attend and support OO marches support Rangers and are they all members? Edited September 3, 2019 by Dons_1988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: OK, are all of them just local lads who are fans, or do some travel from Northern Ireland? If so, it's a strange choice of club for a Northern Irishman. And do all OO members who support Rangers regularly attend games or do they support from afar? Local lads: No idea. I'm sure some members of lodges in Ireland, north or south, will come to Ibrox, most will not. Rangers Orangemen going to football: A minority will go to games. But then the Orange Order in Scotland is a small organisation so if you strip out the ones who don't follow football, those who support other teams and those who are armchair fans like me then you arrive at a tiny % of Rangers' support who are active as fans and as Orangemen. I guessed about the 1,000 mark but that's probably being generous. Edited September 3, 2019 by The_Kincardine -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Local lads: No idea. I'm sure some members of lodges in Ireland, north or south, will come to Ibrox, most will not. Rangers Orangemen going to football: A minority will go to games. But then the Orange Order in Scotland is a small organisation so if you strip out the ones who don't follow football, those who support other teams and those who are armchair fans like me then you arrive at a tiny % of Rangers' support who are active as fans and as Orangemen. I guessed about the 1,000 mark but that's probably being generous.Why do these guys from Ireland support rangers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Why do these guys from Ireland support rangers? Not because of any connection between Rangers and The Orange Order, of course. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said: Not because of any connection between Rangers and The Orange Order, of course. No, you're right. I'm sure none of them see Rangers as a representation of any of their beliefs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: I quite like flute music, you'd think that the Most Loyal Staunch Loyalist Proddy Ultra Loyal Proddy Prod Prod flute bands and the Finbarr McTerrorist James O'Connolly Balaclava Gang Bang Shamrock Muzak Collective could get together and bond over shared musical interests. I reckon this is my favourite album, after Springsteen’s ‘Live in Glasgow’, AC/DC’s ‘Powerage’, Genesis’ ‘Trick of the Tail’, or, well, a few hundred others. it’s definitely my favourite flute-based record by a beardy Ulsterman. Definitely....maybe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: And paid for by the DUP, of course. I wondered what had happened to the billion pounds... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: No, you're right. I'm sure none of them see Rangers as a representation of any of their beliefs. You are building an argument for a connection between Rangers and the OO based on a hypothetical Orangemen from Donegal going to Ibrox? Now that is tenuous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 You are building an argument for a connection between Rangers and the OO based on a hypothetical Orangemen from Donegal going to Ibrox? Now that is tenuous.Don’t be silly. He’s from portrush. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I wondered what had happened to the billion pounds... Macwhitshisname has already been there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I wondered what had happened to the billion pounds... 2 minutes ago, bennett said: Macwhitshisname has already been there... F*** me, he got his hands on it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyDickFingers Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: Why do these guys from Ireland support rangers? Lets ask Diamond Dan the Orangeman (aka Sash Gordon) " Lack of education kids!" What are some symptoms I should look out for Sash ? Crime Spoiler Drug use Spoiler Sexual risk taking Spoiler Ok thanks Sash! "No surrender kids" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Don’t be silly. He’s from portrush. Well that's me confounded then. I entirely forgot about the hypothetical bloke from North Antrim when I said last week, "Some on here genuinely think there's a connection between The Orange Order and Rangers." How silly of me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 That video of the Rangers fan asking Scott Brown how is sister is. Dear oh dear.Absolute vermin. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: That video of the Rangers fan asking Scott Brown how is sister is. Dear oh dear. Absolute vermin. Just a tiny minority but. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) For the sake of The Kincardine, can anyone please provide evidence that shows The Rangers 2012 are officially, and I do mean officially, linked in any way with vermin. Otherwise it’s all simply in the minds of us diddies. Thank you in advance, my fellow Sevco slanderers. Edited September 3, 2019 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZvonimirBoban Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I’m actually pleasantly surprised rangers fans seem to largely condemn this. Just the racism, sectarianism and bigotry to weed out now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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