ICTJohnboy Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Police Scotland should get Cameron Miekelson to make their announcements, rather than Iain Livingstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: In 1690 you would have been burnt for suggesting the Earth went around the Sun. Reveal hidden contents Maybe not historically accurate but I have a right to my own opinion sheeple! That is crap, Welshy, even by your low standards... BTW I am not knocking science per se. I am knocking blind faith in scientific predictions and I have right on my side - as usual. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: In 1690 you would have been burnt for suggesting the Earth went around the Sun. Hide contents Maybe not historically accurate but I have a right to my own opinion sheeple! According to hit video game Assassin's Creed: Odyssey apparently you're out by about 2000 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 "PeterSweden" getting posted on Pie and Bovril. At this stage I'm hoping the virus takes me tbh. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Yes. This is the elite medical expertise that is being utilised. It’s not just a bunch of Tory MPs winging things. If that were the case then the pubs etc. would have been shut from February 11 and schools from February 26, which is what the government’s own ‘scientific pandemic influenza groups’ suggested. The government didn’t bother following up that advice for weeks and so here we are. So the strategy here has in fact been that of a government winging things from start to finish. Just because it wheels out a rotating cast of stooges to sell the same party line to the general public (as opposed to contradicting each other and destroying all trust immediately) does not mean that its decisions have been guided by credible science. Edited April 3, 2020 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: That is crap, Welshy, even by your low standards... BTW I am not knocking science per se. I am knocking blind faith in scientific predictions and I have right on my side - as usual. So whose advice do you think they should take, your new friend @Jeremiah Cole 's sources in the anti vaccination community? Or just not bother and do nothing and leave it in God's hands? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Deaths expected to reach 10,000 in Britain by next week. Western countries are pretty much on the same curve. Sweden gaining ground after a poor start. The US to storm into the lead as the month progresses. Edited April 3, 2020 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, virginton said: If that were the case then the pubs etc. would have been shut from February 11 and schools from February 26, which is what the government’s own ‘scientific pandemic influenza groups’ suggested. The government didn’t bother following up that advice for weeks and so here we are. So the strategy here has in fact been that of a government winging things from start to finish. Just because it wheels out a rotating cast of stooges to sell the same party line to the general public (as opposed to contradicting each other and destroying all trust immediately) does not mean that its decisions have been guided by credible science. The problem was Cummings believing his mates in the superforecaster community and some oddball behavioural scientists until the grownups took a belated grip. Edited April 3, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: So whose advice do you think they should take, your new friend @Jeremiah Cole 's sources in the anti vaccination community? Or just not bother and do nothing and leave it in God's hands? He’ll be listening intently at 8pm on Sunday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, jagfox99 said: Despite the differing approaches their isn't much difference between Sweden and Norway so far. It will only become clear what approach worked best when you can see long term mortality rates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: That is crap, Welshy, even by your low standards... BTW I am not knocking science per se. I am knocking blind faith in scientific predictions and I have right on my side - as usual. It's not the science that's wrong, it's the way that they collated and used it. You obviously didn't mean your bookie line the way I took it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 What’s prediction based on science ever done for us eh? Waste of bleeding time if you ask me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: So whose advice do you think they should take, your new friend @Jeremiah Cole 's sources in the anti vaccination community? Or just not bother and do nothing and leave it in God's hands? And I have no answer to that - and if I had I'd be PM. The Swedes are following their epidemiologists' advice and we're following ours and both countries are taking very different courses of action. The conclusion is that one set of scientists must be wrong but I have no competence to say which. My gut feeling is that the Swedes are righter than we are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: What’s prediction based on science ever done for us eh? Waste of bleeding time if you ask me. You're probably loving all this doom and gloom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, jagfox99 said: The Swedish prime minister discussed their strategy over the past couple of days. They're playing the long game, 'a marathon not a sprint' being mentioned. The time to judge the success of different strategies is when it's all done. What if Sweden goes through the tough time now but stops the spread of the virus through the 'herd immunity' principle within 4 months and is back to relative normality, but Denmark has to keep everyone in lockdown for 18 months or longer because as soon as they let folk return to normal living the death rate surges? All depends on the final numbers and how scarred each society is left at the end of it all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: And I have no answer to that - and if I had I'd be PM. The Swedes are following their epidemiologists' advice and we're following ours and both countries are taking very different courses of action. The conclusion is that one set of scientists must be wrong but I have no competence to say which. My gut feeling is that the Swedes are righter than we are. They're not doing much different, very similar advice. The Swedes are relying on the intelligence of their population, we're relying a bit more on enforcement. Most Swedes are working from home when they can and observing social distance advice most of the time. Probably washing their hands more than we are. Edited April 3, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: "PeterSweden" getting posted on Pie and Bovril. At this stage I'm hoping the virus takes me tbh. Not seeing anything wrong with the quote from Peter Sweden, what's your gripe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, virginton said: If that were the case then the pubs etc. would have been shut from February 11 and schools from February 26, which is what the government’s own ‘scientific pandemic influenza groups’ suggested. The government didn’t bother following up that advice for weeks and so here we are. So the strategy here has in fact been that of a government winging things from start to finish. Just because it wheels out a rotating cast of stooges to sell the same party line to the general public (as opposed to contradicting each other and destroying all trust immediately) does not mean that its decisions have been guided by credible science. You sure about that? Possibly from the WHO, but not from the country's chief science and medical advisors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: He looks like shite btw. First PM in yonks to croak in office? He's been boozing in lockdown for a week now. Takes it toll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: The Swedish prime minister discussed their strategy over the past couple of days. They're playing the long game, 'a marathon not a sprint' being mentioned. The time to judge the success of different strategies is when it's all done. What if Sweden goes through the tough time now but stops the spread of the virus through the 'herd immunity' principle within 4 months and is back to relative normality, but Denmark has to keep everyone in lockdown for 18 months or longer because as soon as they let folk return to normal living the death rate surges? All depends on the final numbers and how scarred each society is left at the end of it all. A massage from the Swedish Prime Minister? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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