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I think it's likely that the numbers from the start of the crisis are incorrect and were likely covered up.
Yet at the same time, because they welded people in doors they have probably got it under control now. 
No one's disputing they've go it under control now but 3 thousand deid [emoji23]. This is country where people leave wee girls on the side of the road but managed to come out with a death rate far below any developed Country. I'd love to see Wuhans true figures. I reckon the amount of deaths would be quite frightening especially now we know how long it takes to care for someone and the mortality rate once you get to a certain stage. I reckon ma wee boy could look at China's figures and think nah..they're at it.
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The money generated by the Indian economy simply leaves the economy and is hoarded by a tiny number of people.

How are they hoarding money? They're not Ken Dodding billions in cash in their mattresses. They're purchasing things with it and investing it. It'll be a tiny percentage that's actually held as cash in banks.
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2 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said:


How are they hoarding money? They're not Ken Dodding billions in cash in their mattresses. They're purchasing things with it and investing it. It'll be a tiny percentage that's actually held as cash in banks.

Ok, and what's the benefit to your average Indian geezer of spending on yachts, expensive paintings, apartments in New York, expensive jewellery, country houses etc?

It's not like the Indian 1% are nipping off down to the local corner restaurant and keeping their local economy going. As much as the trickle-down economics gang would love us all to believe it, that's just not how the wealthy spend their dosh.

Same as in the UK, they are minimising their tax and protecting their wealth for future generations of privilege.

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Regardless of how much of a c**t he is, the Prime Minister being in intensive care during a pandemic is quite a big news story. Don't understand why folk are surprised at the coverage it's getting. 

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10 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

China are a well known bastion of truth.

Up there with North Korea for letting people form their own opinions.

It’s funny how nobody on the thread was bothering much to query their numbers during the peak of their outbreak; indeed the focus of this thread and the media coverage was still on how terribly cruel it was for the nasty Chinese authorities to truncheon people in the face and force them to stay inside.

Roll on nearly three months and the same people are positively gagging for the army to be rolled onto the streets to stop people going to the shop and grassing on their neighbours for sharing a carryout with guests, now that the victims are white and have accessible life stories.

40 minutes ago, AUFC90 said:

You genuinely think that Wuhan, a city of 12 million people, where people were literally getting welded into their flats records less deaths than New York or London.

Aye nae bother. Wouldn't surprise me if it's tens of thousands in that city alone.

Forcing people into their flats and quarantining an entire region is a far more effective disease reduction strategy than ‘advising’ people to not go to the pub and letting their filthy sprogs stay in school during weeks of a confirmed outbreak, yes.

It really shouldn’t come as any surprise that an authoritarian regime with huge powers of social coercion and citizens drilled in high levels of compliance handles a public health emergency much more efficiently than this crop of idiot politicians and an even thicker general public in the Anglosphere.

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24 minutes ago, AUFC90 said:

No one's disputing they've go it under control now but 3 thousand deid emoji23.png. This is country where people leave wee girls on the side of the road but managed to come out with a death rate far below any developed Country. I'd love to see Wuhans true figures. I reckon the amount of deaths would be quite frightening especially now we know how long it takes to care for someone and the mortality rate once you get to a certain stage. I reckon ma wee boy could look at China's figures and think nah..they're at it.

I find it hard to believe as well tbh. No doubt measures such as welding people in flats has helped them get in under control just now, but for several weeks there was denial that anything was wrong. Given how infectious the virus is, you’d expect it to have spread massively in that time. Just seems implausible that so few people in Wuhan died as a result.

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30 minutes ago, Turkmenbashi said:

I think it's likely that the numbers from the start of the crisis are incorrect and were likely covered up.

Yet at the same time, because they welded people in doors they have probably got it under control now. 

They didn't actually weld people into flats. In some cases they welded shut extra entrances so they could control people coming in and out through one entrance. You got one permit per household to out for food every three days or so.

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Could there be something in this -

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.24.20042937v1

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COVID-19 has spread to most countries in the world. Puzzlingly, the impact of the disease is different in different countries. These differences are attributed to differences in cultural norms, mitigation efforts, and health infrastructure. Here we propose that national differences in COVID-19 impact could be partially explained by the different national policies respect to Bacillus Calmette-Guerin (BCG) childhood vaccination. BCG vaccination has been reported to offer broad protection to respiratory infections.


Spain has had over 13000 deaths but Portugal only 340 - both on the same peninsula. Portugal has a full BCG vaccination programme, Spain doesn't.

The UK stopped mass BCG vaccinations in 2005

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Forcing people into their flats and quarantining an entire region is a far more effective disease reduction strategy than ‘advising’ people to not go to the pub and letting their filthy sprogs stay in school during weeks of a confirmed outbreak, yes.
It really shouldn’t come as any surprise that an authoritarian regime with huge powers of social coercion and citizens drilled in high levels of compliance handles a public health emergency much more efficiently than this crop of idiot politicians and an even thicker general public in the Anglosphere.
It's no surprise to anyone that you're the one here believing China of all places [emoji23]. Yes they can enforce a stricter lockdown which in a country like China just means people dying in their houses and not being recorded for f**k all. Even if you do believe that only 80k contracted the virus their death to recovery rate on official figures is still clearly bullshit.
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28 minutes ago, AUFC90 said:

No one's disputing they've go it under control now but 3 thousand deid emoji23.png. This is country where people leave wee girls on the side of the road but managed to come out with a death rate far below any developed Country. 

So South Korea is not a developed country now? But the US’ utter dogshit public healthcare provision makes the cut instead?

I think it’s becoming all too clear what your real issue is with the figures but I’m afraid that the WHO trades solely in facts rather than your lazy cultural assumptions of superiority.

 

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2 hours ago, bennett said:

Kay Burley lurking outside downing street like a vulture,  great way to start the morning. 

Probably looking for some sad animals to photograph. Maybe that Downing Street cat?

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So South Korea is not a developed country now? But the US’ utter dogshit public healthcare provision makes the cut instead?

I think it’s becoming all too clear what your real issue is with the figures but I’m afraid that the WHO trades solely in facts rather than your lazy cultural assumptions of superiority.

 

South Korea wasn't the epicentre of a highly contagious disease and is literally levels above the province of Hubei in absolutely everything.

 

ETA, and facts [emoji23] the only facts the WHO will have will be the ones China fed them.

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