marty_j Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I’ve given up watch the news. The MSM are not great at best of times but have sunk to a new low during this crisis with their lack of scrutiny. As other have said a couple of weeks ago Italy and France were being portrayed as disaster areas yet the equivalent death rate in the UK is being reported completely differently. ETA also how the government is getting away with the same bullshit about PPE and ventilators every day virtually unchallenged is appalling. It’s embarrassing Even by their own ridiculously low standards they have really outdone themselves 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, coprolite said: Thanks for the link. 6.8% of German spending is by the govt compared to 79% on the uk. The balance is pretty much insurance. 29% of German spending is on hospitals compared to 42% of the UKs. The overall difference could be easily accounted for by Germans paying insurers dividends and using proportionally more higher margin discretionary services. Might not be though, maybe they just provide more through community channels and maybe private provision is more efficient. Given the difficulties in compiling any economic measure i'm inclined to think that the headline difference of 13% doesn't show a significant difference in healthcare provision, and that consequently it is more likely that it's testing levels that are making the most difference. Testing makes a huge difference. However, the rest of your statement is obfuscation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Only an uber p***k would even have such thoughts. A sad day indeed for those Nats that wanted him dead. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 A sad day indeed for those Nats that wanted him dead. You wanted him dead more than anyone else you fucking ghoulish loser 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, beefybake said: Testing makes a huge difference. However, the rest of your statement is obfuscation. That's the point. You can't draw any meaningful conclusion from a headline figure like that. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Sounds almost human at bits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Boris is off to Chequers to recuperate. Great news. Out on Easter Sunday. I never saw that one coming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: Out on Easter Sunday. I never saw that one coming. He's speaking remarkably well, must have put him at an open window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Rugster said: Think it might be a while before he shows himself again after his shocker yesterday. I’ve obviously missed something. Can anyone enlighten me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 The entirety of the British media are a human centipede with the Tory government as the head. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 1 hour ago, Mastermind said: A sad day indeed for those Nats that wanted him dead. You wanted him dead more than anyone else you fucking ghoulish loser u ok m8? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Mastermind said: A sad day indeed for those Nats that wanted him dead. Dead or in hiding, either way he's disappeared off the scene again while the going is at its toughest....almost certainly to miraculously appear again in a few weeks when restrictions are beginning to be lifted. The UK is well on the way to having the worst infection and death rates in Europe, and the scrutiny of the government is non-existent (the suspicious would say it's been deliberately planned this way). The PM is missing in action, parliament isn't sitting, and 80% of the media are more concerned with the normal right wing tropes of Brexit, hating the EU, criticising the Labour party and having a dig at Liberals, rather than doing what they should be doing......which is asking why the f**k the UK's government was so lazy, lax and incompetent by not taking strict, serious measures more than 4 weeks ago. Other countries in Europe who acted decisively are beginning to move out of lockdown, while the pandemic in the UK is yet to peak.....all due to the mumbleclown in Number 10 (or Chequers, or the Caribbean, or wherever he is), and his unwillingness to handle this head on over a month ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Boris managing to shirk his responsibilities for a while longer. What a mintermind. Theres your 10k now. Edited April 12, 2020 by Melanius Mullarkey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, oaksoft said: That's because you are confusing positive thinking with mindless happy clapping and thinking they are the same. Positive thinking is about having the ability to look for and spot the nuggets of gold in a field of shite. These people tend to be more resilient and tend to be more content in life. The alternative is to see nothing but the shite. You can kid yourself on that you are a realist for having this outlook but that is a fucking miserable way to live your life. Aye mate you're right actually. If I can't take the positives out of 1,000 folk a day dying in the UK, being unable to see any of my pals or family, mates getting laid off and every other person in my block of flats being unable to leave the building then my way of living must be pretty miserable! Edited April 12, 2020 by Marshmallo -9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Mastermind said: A sad day indeed for those Nats that wanted him dead. and for those wanting him dead so they can make pathetic points on a message board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Interesting how some folk look at Boris in another light! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Boris managing to shirk his responsibilities for a while longer. What a mintermind. Theres your 10k now. You’ll be the most gutted cybernat on here that Boris isn’t among that 10k after you’re earlier posts. Chin up buddy. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Dead or in hiding, either way he's disappeared off the scene again while the going is at its toughest....almost certainly to miraculously appear again in a few weeks when restrictions are beginning to be lifted. The UK is well on the way to having the worst infection and death rates in Europe, and the scrutiny of the government is non-existent (the suspicious would say it's been deliberately planned this way). The PM is missing in action, parliament isn't sitting, and 80% of the media are more concerned with the normal right wing tropes of Brexit, hating the EU, criticising the Labour party and having a dig at Liberals, rather than doing what they should be doing......which is asking why the f**k the UK's government was so lazy, lax and incompetent by not taking strict, serious measures more than 4 weeks ago. Other countries in Europe who acted decisively are beginning to move out of lockdown, while the pandemic in the UK is yet to peak.....all due to the mumbleclown in Number 10 (or Chequers, or the Caribbean, or wherever he is), and his unwillingness to handle this head on over a month ago. Uk and US had very similar approaches. Head in sand then an alternative approach to countries irks SK and Germany to ensure the economy was the priority. when the bodies starting to pile up and projections had death rates at a number that couldn't be fudged or downgraded through misdirection or contradiction, then sensible measures were introduced. Wonder what the two countries have in common...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Minter still posting in threads still trying to get bites is the most minter thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said: Uk and US had very similar approaches. Head in sand then an alternative approach to countries irks SK and Germany to ensure the economy was the priority. when the bodies starting to pile up and projections had death rates at a number that couldn't be fudged or downgraded through misdirection or contradiction, then sensible measures were introduced. Wonder what the two countries have in common...... Tynierose summed it up nicely earlier in the thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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