Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[welshbairn]

3 minutes ago, Herman Hessian said:

has there been any sensible input with regard to whether or not summer heat will  mitigate the effects of the virus ?

i get the impression that this was just wishful thinking going back to when it was first characterised as "a bit like flu" which is generally worse in colder conditions, that and the fact that it's still perceived as a massive threat in Africa and the Indian subcontinent where it's already that much warmer....

The seasonal thing is supposed to be more about people spending more time indoors together in the winter so bugs can get transferred more easily, rather than heat killing off the bug, although they usually survive better in cold, dry environments. Should have just said f**k knows really.

[parsforlife]

Isn’t the flu etc generally worse cos we spend more time in close contact indoors and nothing to do with how the virus actually behaves in different weather.   And therefore through my entirely unscientific analysis summer might actually be worse for the impact a lockdown would have.  We wouldn’t be seeing nearly as many people out and about if it was pissing it down at the moment.

[Todd_is_God]

5 minutes ago, Detournement said:

It's going to happen. More people will be back at work from the beginning of May and restrictions on socialising will probably be gone from the start of June which is the 12 weeks estimated at the very start.

Those that are vunerable or just terrified of the virus will be free to stay inside.

I'm not convinced your timeline for restrictions on socialising will be accurate (i think you are about a month too early) but the general gist probably is.

Large scale gatherings may well be held off a bit longer, but once we reach the stage where everyone's work is open, there is less of a case for keeping cafés / cinemas / bars etc closed.

It may be the case that masks must be worn, and that everyone is sanitising their hands very regularly, but the government cannot keep paying employees 80% of their wage indefinitely as, like you say, cases are extremely unlikely to reach zero.

Long term social distancing is impractical - workplaces etc were not designed to allow 2m between every employee.

[Detournement]

I think pubs will be kept closed and I don't see gigs or clubs happening for even longer. 

By socialising I meant popping round to your mates for a BBQ, going to visit your parents, getting a bird up etc

[peasy23]

I don't think it's that unreasonable for Starmer to ask what the exit strategy is going to be. It's obviously going to be done in phases, and imo there won't be any let up in restrictions until mid to late May at the very earliest. Some businesses will take longer to get up and running again than others, while one obvious problem will be that there will be many people who will be unable to return to work without the schools/nurseries also being open.

It will be interesting to see if any companies close offices after discovering they are paying for a building that they can function perfectly well with without, as everybody has been working from home.

[Granny Danger]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm not convinced your timeline for restrictions on socialising will be accurate (i think you are about a month too early) but the general gist probably is.

Large scale gatherings may well be held off a bit longer, but once we reach the stage where everyone's work is open, there is less of a case for keeping cafés / cinemas / bars etc closed.

It may be the case that masks must be worn, and that everyone is sanitising their hands very regularly, but the government cannot keep paying employees 80% of their wage indefinitely as, like you say, cases are extremely unlikely to reach zero.

Long term social distancing is impractical - workplaces etc were not designed to allow 2m between every employee.

I’ll bet you a pound to a penny that social distancing is not being practiced in many/most of the businesses currently still operating.  There’s lots of jobs in construction where you can’t stay 2 metres apart or sanitise an area after one person has worked there.  I see van being driven about with two folk in the cab, that’s not social distancing.

 

[Detournement]

As I said earlier if companies are functioning normally with everyone working from home the reaction will be to work more efficiently in the office. 

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, Granny Danger said:

I’ll bet you a pound to a penny that social distancing is not being practiced in many/most of the businesses currently still operating.  There’s lots of jobs in construction where you can’t stay 2 metres apart or sanitise an area after one person has worked there.  I see van being driven about with two folk in the cab, that’s not social distancing.

I guess that sort of highlights the impracticality of it.

Its ok in wide open places, but in smaller places no way. For example, KFC in Glasgow are opening up again soon for takeaways. In a kitchen environment like that it's just not possible.

I'm also fairly certain 2m is not a 100% transmission free barrier either.

Figures coming out of Spain today are rather encouraging. As, callous as it may appear, are the UK figures.

[Granny Danger]

I don’t know why this has popped into my head, and I don’t know if it’s been discussed already, but this must be a difficult time for people having affairs outwith their marriage/relationship.

”I’m just going down to the pub/off to the bingo” isn’t cutting it at the moment.

Have any P&Brs had an extra-marital affair during a global pandemic and found the situation difficult?*

* copyright @ICTChris

[welshbairn]

14 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

I don't think it's that unreasonable for Starmer to ask what the exit strategy is going to be. It's obviously going to be done in phases, and imo there won't be any let up in restrictions until mid to late May at the very earliest. Some businesses will take longer to get up and running again than others, while one obvious problem will be that there will be many people who will be unable to return to work without the schools/nurseries also being open.

It will be interesting to see if any companies close offices after discovering they are paying for a building that they can function perfectly well with without, as everybody has been working from home.

Working from home will be conditional on having spy cameras installed at your assigned workspace. 

[dirty dingus]

FFS, Matt Hancock want to give all us carers a wee badge. My life is complete.

[Guest]

43 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Fair question.

Coming out of lockdown too soon, could serve to make matters 100 times worse.

It depends on how many have already contracted the virus without knowing.

Again, I'd stress why testing is so important.

[ICTJohnboy]

Why does Hancock always address his audience as if he was talking to a bunch of 7 year olds?

All he seems to want to do is boast (and point score) as to the what he sees as to the success of the measures the gov/t have adopted thus far. He's so proud of all that has been achieved.

Not a single apology as to the mistakes that have been made which have led to so much loss of life since the virus took a hold. He could learn so much from NS if he took the time and trouble to study her, and her govt's approach.

[Detournement]

Has Nicola apologised for deaths?

[Hymlick Manouvre]

8 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

Why does Hancock always address his audience as if he was talking to a bunch of 7 year olds?

All he seems to want to do is boast (and point score) as to the what he sees as to the success of the measures the gov/t have adopted thus far. He's so proud of all that has been achieved.

Not a single apology as to the mistakes that have been made which have led to so much loss of life since the virus took a hold. He could learn so much from NS if he took the time and trouble to study her, and her govt's approach.

Drinking early ? Has she opened that temporary hospital yet ? 

[ICTJohnboy]

Just now, Detournement said:

Has Nicola apologised for deaths?

 

Sincerely and profoundly.

[dirty dingus]

2 minutes ago, Hymlick Manouvre said:

Drinking early ? Has she opened that temporary hospital yet ? 

Shut up Manky. The hospitals are running well under max and ICU use is under 50% so why open something that's not required at the present time?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18377095.coronavirus-scotland-half-icu-beds-empty/

[Jambomo]

Alex Thompson asking the sharp questions

[peasy23]

Alex Thompson asking the sharp questions [emoji23]

Can't be far off Phil McGobbledygook being allowed to ask a question.

[welshbairn]

2 minutes ago, Jambomo said:

Alex Thompson asking the sharp questions

No follow up granted as expected.