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13 minutes ago, Wee Willie said:

And that's my point. We must vote SNP at least until independence then we vote for whatever party we want.

Which is the reason they can do whatever the f**k they want, as well or as badly as they want, with absolutely no risk.

That you don't seem to understand how this could possibly be a bit of a problem is incredible.

I support Scottish Independence as in the current landscape I believe it is what is best for Scotland. If that was to change then so would my views on it.

Supporting anything political "whatever the cost" is daft.

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3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

BREATHE A WARE

This fist in mouth idiocy has got the mark of Jason 'Caucasians couldn't possibly be expected to wear a face mask like east Asians (c. March 2020)' Leitch stamped all over it. It's long past time that Sturgeon bundled this clown out of the door and let some adults into the room to make rational decisions instead.

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1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said:

I support Scottish Independence as in the current landscape I believe it is what is best for Scotland. If that was to change then so would my views on it.

Given that the only other landscape on offer is continuing with Westminster I'd be interested to hear what Westminster might do or offer to change your mind from Scotland having all the levers of an independent country.

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7 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:


Nah disagree with you now, they’ve made a c**t of this and we now need an alternative Indy Party not populated with moon howlers.

I don't think there's realistically any possibility of an alternative hegemonic force emerging to drag Scotland to independence but the SNP are in dire need of a shake up and a lot of people - from the leadership to the voting base - need to start asking serious questions of themselves.

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I don't think there's realistically any possibility of an alternative hegemonic force emerging to drag Scotland to independence but the SNP are in dire need of a shake up and a lot of people - from the leadership to the voting base - need to start asking serious questions of themselves.

Im inclined to agree. Get rid of the ineffective nonentities like, Chris Mceleny, Angus Mcneil, Humza and Cherry and start delivering effective governance.
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20 minutes ago, Steven W said:

If Boris Johnson came out with that he'd be getting (and rightly so) ridiculed from all and sundry. 

You breathe differently in a pub? f**k me....

Totally agree, same with the new "stay safe" slogan. Between Swinney last weekend and the subsequent backtracking, it's all went a bit parody 

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1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:


Im inclined to agree. Get rid of the ineffective nonentities like, Chris Mceleny, Angus Mcneil, Humza and Cherry and start delivering effective governance.

You can't remove ineffective non-entities while you've got ~500 spots to fill at Westminster, Holyrood and council level. There's nowhere near that amount of competence in all the Scottish political parties put together and even the post-2014 surge took in far more whamees than it did legitimately fresh talent. It should be no surprise that a party that has dominated every level of politics for over a decade is in need of a refresh. It's why every party loses power eventually. 

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I’m going back and forward on yesterday’s decision.

On one hand I can understand the concern about reopening, but Then i start asking myself why they’re not willing to go with Phase 2 in it’s entirety.

I can see them changing and moving forward quicker after next week.

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