Gordon EF Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) On the topic of cross-border quarantine. I'd be happy to move the border up to allow the Borders and D&G to form a little Tory bubble with England. Edited July 1, 2020 by Gordon EF 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Face masks mandatory on public transport here from Monday onwards. My work have also made it mandatory for all Swiss based staff to download the governments track and trace app. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: On the topic of cross-border quarantine. I'd be happy to move the border up to allow the Borders and D&G to form a little Tory bubble with England. Great idea! Hopefully it could happen sometime soon. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-29273340 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 While England and Scotland take different approaches to the move out of Lockdown, or at the very least move at a different paces, then I think it is important that we continue to get a Scottish Government daily update even as repetitive as they are becoming. I was worried at the time that the approaches in England and Scotland first started to diverge that people would take their lead from a very English centric broadcast media* with the result that the differences in Scotland's approach wouldn't be as visible and as a consequence, intentionally or not, ignored. I don't think that has happened largely because of these daily briefings. They have helped highlight the fact there is a different road map being followed in Scotland than there is in England. That's not to say that one is better than the other, just that there is a need for those differences be as clearly articulated as possible. If they stopped doing them now then it would be the English narrative that would dominate and as a result could lead to a potential increase in non-compliance with restriction measures still in place in Scotland but not in England. *An example of why broadcasting should have been a devolved issue. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ross. said: Face masks mandatory on public transport here from Monday onwards. My work have also made it mandatory for all Swiss based staff to download the governments track and trace app. On work phones or on personal phones. Work phones fair enough, if its your own phone get that to f**k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wile E Coyote said: On work phones or on personal phones. Work phones fair enough, if its your own phone get that to f**k Personal phones. The app does not retain any personal information. If you test positive for Covid you are given a code to enter. The app then monitors nearby phones via bluetooth and if someone who has tested positive comes into range, it notifies you. I don't see why anyone would be bothered about this app. If the government wanted to track your movements, they would be more than capable of doing it with or without this app. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ross. said: Personal phones. The app does not retain any personal information. If you test positive for Covid you are given a code to enter. The app then monitors nearby phones via bluetooth and if someone who has tested positive comes into range, it notifies you. I don't see why anyone would be bothered about this app. If the government wanted to track your movements, they would be more than capable of doing it with or without this app. I am more concerned with the fact employers think they can tell you what to with your own property that you have paid for yourself. You are not a slave who is at their beck and call twenty four hours a day. Don't particularly know about Swiss law but I doubt this is legal in any civilised country unless the government make it law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Wile E Coyote said: I am more concerned with the fact employers think they can tell you what to with your own property that you have paid for yourself. You are not a slave who is at their beck and call twenty four hours a day. Don't particularly know about Swiss law but I doubt this is legal in any civilised country unless the government make it law. Probably not legally enforceable but they pay me an eye watering amount of money to turn up every day, and I won't be doing anything that encourages them to change that arrangement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: On the topic of cross-border quarantine. I'd be happy to move the border up to allow the Borders and D&G to form a little Tory bubble with England. Berwick will be a hoot on Saturday with some pubs reopening, I know of quite a few lads making the trip over the border 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, bendan said: I'm not so sure - is anyone else still doing them? At the very least, she could delegate a bit more. Or people who aren't that interested in her daily briefing could always just not watch it. Find it a bit mad folk are complaining about being given information on a daily basis. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcplum Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Wee Willie said: Surely the biggest porky was the then CMO Catherine Calderwood saying that there were 'clear medical reasons' why Charlie Windsor, his wife and presumably his entourage were tested for the virus. You’re like a broken record. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: Are you related to @pozbaird? Poz and Todd at caffe nero: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 It’s quite clear that until a vaccine is found that covid won’t be completely eradicated. Many boffins have already said a vaccine may never be found. I don’t see localised lockdowns being the answer for anyone (employers/employees especially). There’s going to need to come a day when we say “fck it” or else we’ll be stuck “living” like this potentially until we all crock it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Going to be some laugh for employers this winter when staff get a cold and develop a cough so need to book a test (which will be negative) then isolate for 14 days... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: It’s quite clear that until a vaccine is found that covid won’t be completely eradicated. Many boffins have already said a vaccine may never be found. I don’t see localised lockdowns being the answer for anyone (employers/employees especially). There’s going to need to come a day when we say “fck it” or else we’ll be stuck “living” like this potentially until we all crock it I see you’re a bit behind on the boffin news there Einstein as a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNtech has shown positive results in early testing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Going to be some laugh for employers this winter when staff get a cold and develop a cough so need to book a test (which will be negative) then isolate for 14 days... If they had a test and it was negative, why would they need to quarantine? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Going to be some laugh for employers this winter when staff get a cold and develop a cough so need to book a test (which will be negative) then isolate for 14 days...Said before sick pay (lack of) and the generally accepted shitty deal offered by employers is going to be a huge problem in this. If they had a test and it was negative, why would they need to quarantine?Contact tracing advice seems to be that you isolate for 14 days. No mention of testing and I suspect not enough faith in reliability. So perhaps not applicable to synptoms>test>negative and back to work but it is still going to be a major issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Moonster said: If they had a test and it was negative, why would they need to quarantine? Because the tests aren't 100% It's the same reason why if contacted by Test & Protect, even if you get tested and it's negative you still need to isolate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCinthearea Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: It’s quite clear that until a vaccine is found that covid won’t be completely eradicated. Many boffins have already said a vaccine may never be found. I don’t see localised lockdowns being the answer for anyone (employers/employees especially). There’s going to need to come a day when we say “fck it” or else we’ll be stuck “living” like this potentially until we all crock it I agree 100%. Malaria kills hundreds of thousands and infects tens of millions every year and we don't see countries shutting down because of it. They go about their normal business and take precautions to limit it's spread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, The OP said: I see you’re a bit behind on the boffin news there Einstein as a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNtech has shown positive results in early testing. I’ll reserve my glee at such news when there’s a queue a mile long down at the local hospital getting the vaccine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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