welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Todd_is_God said: That was my thought when you said it. But you did. f**k knows who you quoted but it's not me. Turns out the furlough is UK wide and unconditional so it's not an issue. You can relax. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: f**k knows who you quoted but it's not me. Turns out the furlough is UK wide and unconditional so it's not an issue. You can relax. You're right. It was the other welshbairn... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Not sure if this is the same study just posted above but UH-OH anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: You're right. It was the other welshbairn... So you quoted yourself and added mine on the end. Clever. My meaning was clear, if Boris was to only offer furlough pay to Scotland on condition that the whole of Scotland went to level 4, what should the SG say? As it's unconditional the issue doesn't arise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Leitch will be furiously trying to link that to hospitality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: So you quoted yourself and added mine on the end. Clever. My meaning was clear, if Boris was to only offer furlough pay to Scotland on condition that the whole of Scotland went to level 4, what should the SG say? As it's unconditional the issue doesn't arise. what? You've had a 'mare. Take it on the chin, champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 In all seriousness, those reports are devastating to both WM & SG claims that schools are safe, and the absolute lack of provision for any restrictions on them at any level. That SAGE either did not recognise, or ignored the possibility, must also cast doubt on the reliability of their advice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: what? You've had a 'mare. Take it on the chin, champ. Aye right, stick to the fake stats and quotes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Aye right, stick to the fake stats and quotes. Because the genuine quotes make you look like a tube? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Imagine standing on National TV and presenting this slide as evidence that a national lockdown is needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Pleased to see early years numbers staying low. I do love that state sponsored parenting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Bairnardo said: Pleased to see early years numbers staying low. I do love that state sponsored parenting. We know. You told us that in June before you backtracked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 f**k knows who you quoted but it's not me. Turns out the furlough is UK wide and unconditional so it's not an issue. You can relax.Source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Pleased to see early years numbers staying low. I do love that state sponsored parenting. If i'm not mistaken, the risk of primary school age children transmitting being lowest is consistent with early papers. Years 7-11 (which, if i'm not mistaken is P7 - S4) seeing the largest increases, though, should raise concerns, given that the SG only intend to mandate face coverings for S4-6, and only in Level 3 & 4 areas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Source? Found it.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/coronavirus-furlough-scheme-extended-scots-19200883.amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Imagine standing on National TV and presenting this slide as evidence that a national lockdown is needed.Wasn't it over 2 before the first lockdown?Scotland is 1.2 but northern Ireland is 0.9 but had the highest rates in the UK?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Wasn't it over 2 before the first lockdown? Scotland is 1.2 but northern Ireland is 0.9 but had the highest rates in the UK?? It was more the point that it's quite clearly coming down without one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 It was more the point that it's quite clearly coming down without one.Maybe not enough. Tbh the only stat i believe is hospital admissions. You can't fudge that and that should be the control.Once it gets to a certain capacity then add this to R number and lockdown that area.A nationwide lockdown seems like a very blunt tool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Maybe not enough. Tbh the only stat i believe is hospital admissions. You can't fudge that and that should be the control. Once it gets to a certain capacity then add this to R number and lockdown that area. A nationwide lockdown seems like a very blunt tool. You can, if you test everyone in hospital weekly, and count each positive PCR as an admission. Which is what we do. Now, whether that was the initial intention is not clear, nor is what the percentage of 'admissions' are made up from people already in hospital is. Edited October 31, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, ICTChris said: I can see this being used to justify a nationwide lockdown up here. Nah, makes it easier to move places to tier 4 though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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