Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Rob1885]

I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know:
1. immediate householders who have Covid. 
2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected  Covid;.
3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 

4.  Known self isolations because of Covid. 
5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? 
it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world,  we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals  directly, seriously and significantly affected.
Prove me wrong?
(that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). 

Grandad had it, nearly 90 years old and was fine except from having dementia meaning he had to kept being reminded to self isolate. He lost his wife at start of september who used to keep him right so that was a bit of a challenge.

Aunt and Uncle and 1 cousin had it, no symptoms as far as I'm aware.

[Coooombe]

I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know:
1. immediate householders who have Covid. 
2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected  Covid;.
3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 

4.  Known self isolations because of Covid. 
5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? 
it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world,  we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals  directly, seriously and significantly affected.
Prove me wrong?
(that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). 

4. Loads, but my girlfriend is a nurse and most of the people I know that have had to self isolate work at her hospital. I don't personally know anyone who has had it badly but I easily know 20+ people who have had to isolate. I live in Newcastle though and reckon the massive surge that happened here was completely down to 50k students arriving back in the city at the same time.

[buchan30]

I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know:
1. immediate householders who have Covid. 
2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected  Covid;.
3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 

4.  Known self isolations because of Covid. 
5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? 
it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world,  we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals  directly, seriously and significantly affected.
Prove me wrong?
(that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). 

Yep. Wifes had it, have had work colleagues off with it and others in self isolation due to their spouse having it. Not known anyone personally with it that has been put in hospital due to it, but know that our main hospital is starting to see more positive cases.

[lithgierose]

24 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Four positive cases in my family. 

Two with mild disease- both young and fully recovered.

Brother-in-law. Mid 40s super fit. Seriously unwell with it.  Fully recovered now but had the disease in March and easily 4-5 months until full recovery.

Wife's uncle. Mid 70s, diabetes and a bit overweight.  Dead.

 

Mother 80,vascular dementia. In a care home down south. Recovered from cancer. Caught covid in April. Still with us. (sorry about your uncle) 

[Scotty Tunbridge]

If this second lock down is brought back in England I can’t see it being complied with. people are over it now so are putting their own mental health and financial needs first this time, furlough gone and not coming back, schools/unis staying open this time is going to put people off complying as well, came in too late again etc etc.

[peasy23]

[Ralstonite]

Thanks to whoever it was that posted the interesting video featuring the MIT professor, but has since deleted it! Much appreciated.

[peasy23]

Also a few tweets from press types that this news has broke before a large chunk of the cabinet had even heard about it.

A few weeks ago the Tories were accusing Starmer of playing politics in the middle of a pandemic when he urged them to implement SAGE'S recommended three week circuit break.

The one thing the government has been consistent with is their utter incompetence to get anything right.

[vikingTON]

1 minute ago, Scotty Tunbridge said:

If this second lock down is brought back in England I can’t see it being complied with. people are over it now so are putting their own mental health and financial needs first this time, furlough gone and not coming back, schools/unis staying open this time is going to put people off complying as well, came in too late again etc etc.

If the vast majority of businesses are compelled to close/WFH then the only real non-compliance issue will be with household gatherings. That's still a significant factor in infections but other than that there will be little option but to comply. It's not as if the beaches and parks are going to be overrun with mass gatherings in November instead.

The idea that everything must be shut down except WFH jobs and of course the weans education is definitely absurd though. As is the 'but... but... save Christmas!!!!!1111!!!!' narrative being peddled right now. It is either a public health crisis in which case the calendar is irrelevant (other than seasonal change) or it is not and they can launch these restrictions into the Sun.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

And to prove the point - look who red dotted.

 

 

And again.

 

 

Predictable.

[Todd_is_God]

Yes, but, it doesn't matter if people lose their jobs. So long as those WFH can be safe and have the rules tightened for everyone else (but relaxed for 48 hours at Christmas). Everything else is definitely unavoidable, brexit related, or just ok in general because "YoU cAn rEbUilD tEh EcOnoMy bUt yOu cAn'T ReBUilD dEaD pEoPle"

Edited October 31, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[vikingTON]

2 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Also a few tweets from press types that this news has broke before a large chunk of the cabinet had even heard about it.

A few weeks ago the Tories were accusing Starmer of playing politics in the middle of a pandemic when he urged them to implement SAGE'S recommended three week circuit break.

The one thing the government has been consistent with is their utter incompetence to get anything right.

The radio headline at Friday breakfast time was 'Boris Johnson rules out a national lockdown': to which my sarcy internal monologue was 'well that's another lockdown guaranteed now!*'. For the UK government to completely reverse course from this message within 24 hours is the most utterly incompetent U turn yet. Sturgeon prepares the ground with days of hectoring because that's smart politics even if the decisions are dubious to say the least. This is just a clown running across a minefield exercise from Johnson.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* Grade A zinger right there

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

And again.

 

 

Predictable.

Maybe VT just doesn't agree with your POV...

[DeeTillEhDeh]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

Maybe VT just doesn't agree with your POV...

That he has a wee clique?

 

 

[Scotty Tunbridge]

And to prove the point - look who red dotted.

 

 

And again.

 

 

Predictable.

That he has a wee clique?

 

 

At least you aren’t letting them bother you, stay strong x

 

 

[vikingTON]

4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

And again.

 

 

Predictable.

It's like they've set up a system to correctly downvote abysmal contributions to the thread.

 

[Lyle Lanley]

1 hour ago, pub car king said:

Time to call the season again.

 

Please. 

[tamthebam]

2 hours ago, pub car king said:

Time to call the season again.

 

Do it. Do it for the Hearts seethe 

[MP_MFC]

I appreciate PnB is a very small slice of a rather specialist demographic, but: could we please have a show of hands for those you know:

1. immediate householders who have Covid. 

2. those who have connections to, but self sufficent, family members with/suspected  Covid;.

3. Work colleagues self isolating with suspected Covid. 

 

4.  Known self isolations because of Covid. 

5. Any other known hospitalisations as a result or Covid? 

it’s definitely real but I’d be surprised if, in our little corner of the world,  we’ve got more than two dozen or so individuals  directly, seriously and significantly affected.

Prove me wrong?

(that does of course never deny individual hospitalisations or deaths as trivial. What I am trying to do to is get some sort of a measure of real experience vs what is being fed through the media). 

1. None.

2. Gran, 91 caught in hospital when in for complications with copd and heart failure. Asymptomatic entirely for covid, dead.

3. None.

4. 7. Two in the first wave suspected to have started with one having a hospital stay, both mild symptoms but after effects lasted around a month. One family of 4 where 3 had it, the youngest tested negative twice despite having all symptoms first, others tested positive one asymptomatic, the other two mild but effects felt for weeks after. Two currently in latter stages of isolation period, one 'struggling but beginning to feel better'.

5. None. Other than answer 2.

 

[Marshmallo]

7 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

And to prove the point - look who red dotted.