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3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

In honesty, we suspected that this year would be a bit in limbo as we waited on large swathes of society being vaccinated. 

I hate that we're in this shitty situation but I'm now looking with one eye at the point when restrictions are lifted... When they are, it must be with a degree of finality. There will be absolutely no appetite in a fully vaccinated population to tighten again whatsoever. 

I would accept no large events or gatherings this year but definitely not keeping the population locked down and businesses closed a fucking second longer than they have to be closed. There is a marked difference between no having 80000 folk at a weekend long music festival and preventing people from going to a pub, cinema or restaurant without restrictions, fear or guilt. 

We should move to a model similar to what Sweden were doing last summer, i.e. typical epidemic mitigation measures, once the vaccine starts rolling out to the wider population, with draconian legislation being fired into the sun and responsibility shifting to the individual. The mewling about the impact of vaccines on transmission should also be in the bin by the time this happens - and this transition can then lead back to mass gatherings going ahead once the rollout has had time to be offered and taken up by the remaining population.

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21 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

As much as it disappoints me, it doesnt suprise me that events like Glastonbury have been shelved and NS basically saying no big events will happen this summer. Everybody seems content to sit indoors and have no fun things like gigs, attending sports etc to look forward to. Folk are already writing off 2021 for anything like that, so really we could potentially be existing to work or watch Netflix for almost 2 years. What a depressing way to "live". Cant wait until a vaccine is out that will change things and allow us to do things like that again 🙄 🙄

When it comes  I hope you keep us posted of all the fun stuff you get up to.

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My work has a policy that seems to be we don't care how little/much you do but if you arrive 1 Minute late then you're worse than Hitler.
They also have this crazy approach to people caught going away a few minutes early. As I say they don't actually ask how much you did in the middle part.
^^arrives 15 minutes late and leaves 15 minutes early
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32 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

In honesty, we suspected that this year would be a bit in limbo as we waited on large swathes of society being vaccinated. 

I hate that we're in this shitty situation but I'm now looking with one eye at the point when restrictions are lifted... When they are, it must be with a degree of finality. There will be absolutely no appetite in a fully vaccinated population to tighten again whatsoever. 

I would accept no large events or gatherings this year but definitely not keeping the population locked down and businesses closed a fucking second longer than they have to be closed. There is a marked difference between no having 80000 folk at a weekend long music festival and preventing people from going to a pub, cinema or restaurant without restrictions, fear or guilt. 

Either way I absolutely cannot wait for the "its discustin that peepul are stull goin for pints when 2 peepul ur diein from covids every day. Have sum respect 🤬🤬" type rants once we do reach that acceptable, manageable, stable level and are living normal lives again.

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1 hour ago, PWL said:

For what's worth, my cynical view is that they are using this as an 'excuse' for being so badly caught out in the second wave. They'll say the reason for the excess deaths and infections down south is this deadly super strong variant. Not Boris and Co fecking around about the whole Christmas thing. 

We share the same views on the Christmas nonsense. 

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3 minutes ago, Gaz said:

The Euros are going to be cancelled, aren't they?

I'd say if anything they are more likely to be played in one country than cancelled. And that country would quite likely be the UK due to the number of games already scheduled here.

Be a bit rich playing the Champions and Europa League to a finish, then cancelling the Euros due to travel concerns.

ETA that's before even considering the impact it looks likely the vaccine will have.

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1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'd say if anything they are more likely to be played in one country than cancelled.

 

1 minute ago, PWL said:

Or moved to Germany and played behind closed doors. 

Maybe. Either way, they're going to be absolute horseshit.

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1 minute ago, Gaz said:

Maybe. Either way, they're going to be absolute horseshit.

They will certainly be a bit of a let down after waiting 23 years to get to one.

But I don't have tickets anyway. Providing I can watch it in a pub or outdoor fan zone (socially distanced, of course) i'll absolutely make the most of it.

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I’ve got tickets to one Scotland game so I’ll be devastated if I can’t go. If I had to guess, I reckon they’ll have some games with reduced capacity, some with no crowd, but all played in the stadiums they’re slated to be played in. 

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Either way I absolutely cannot wait for the "its discustin that peepul are stull goin for pints when 2 peepul ur diein from covids every day. Have sum respect 🤬🤬" type rants once we do reach that acceptable, manageable, stable level and are living normal lives again.

If you’re seeing that type of rant, you probably want to look at the people you follow on social media.

They are not reflective of real life.
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2 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:


If you’re seeing that type of rant, you probably want to look at the people you follow on social media.

They are not reflective of real life.

I dont follow iamchloedee.x but i've still seen her story...

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1 hour ago, Elixir said:

responsibility shifting to the individual

Including liability?

If so I wouldn't be comfortable with that as it would likely end in a lot of civil prosecutions my friend who died of Covid could probably have easily identified the person who gave him Covid but I think it's more bad luck that it proved fatal rather than someone's fault as they could be bankrupt by his loss of earnings.

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Sure I remember somewhere the NFL Franchises letting fans in make them sign a waiver accepting that they will not present any legal claim if they catch Covid whilst attending the game.

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5 minutes ago, 101 said:

Including liability?

If so I wouldn't be comfortable with that as it would likely end in a lot of civil prosecutions my friend who died of Covid could probably have easily identified the person who gave him Covid but I think it's more bad luck that it proved fatal rather than someone's fault as they could be bankrupt by his loss of earnings.

Why liability? Your family can't sue someone if you catch any other virus (e.g. flu) and then die. Why should covid be treated any differently?

Being able to sue people for passing on a virus (unless it's a deliberate, malicious act like with HIV) is definitely not a route i'd welcome going down.

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1 hour ago, Gaz FFC said:

My work has a policy that seems to be we don't care how little/much you do but if you arrive 1 Minute late then you're worse than Hitler.

They also have this crazy approach to people caught going away a few minutes early. As I say they don't actually ask how much you did in the middle part.

I worked in one place where a colleague sometimes left 5 minutes early to beat the traffic.  This was spotted and he was told to stop.

So he stopped leaving early.  He also stopped arriving early to unlock the gates so everybody could get into the car park.

Somehow I think that matter got resolved. 

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