renton Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Todd_is_God said: Forgive me for wanting a well planned execution of a vaccine roll out in order to get my life back. My views on the piss poor roll out are nothing to do with who the largest party are. Assuming they hit their mid February target, would you say that was an adequate or inadequate roll out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 59 minutes ago, ICTChris said: What medical conditions preclude people from taking the vaccine? I'd assume that more elderly people might have a condition that would mean they can't take it. I've heard potential impact on the ability to conceive is a factor in some women refusing the vaccine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 WM have worded it to make it look better. Typical Torying. SG - We have vaccinated X amount of people. WM - We have offered it to X amount of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gaz said: Wait, are folk actually making comparisons between how many vaccines have been 'offered' and how many have actually been given? Looks like it, blowing all those months of graphs and projections out of the water this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 According to this article (what I can read of it anyway) it appears that, whilst it's technically true that the vaccines are not actually in Scotland as NS has said, this is because they haven't actually asked for them rather than them not being available. Anyone able to grab the full article? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheScarf said: WM have worded it to make it look better. Typical Torying. SG - We have vaccinated X amount of people. WM - We have offered it to X amount of people. Regardless of the language, the existing number of vaccines given in England is currently proportionately higher than Scotland . Hopefully the whole of the UK can ramp up so we can start to exit this nightmare. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: According to this article (what I can read of it anyway) it appears that, whilst it's technically true that the vaccines are not actually in Scotland as NS has said, this is because they haven't actually asked for them rather than them not being available. Anyone able to grab the full article? Maybe Scotland could boost numbers by including offered vaccinations in the numbers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, renton said: Assuming they hit their mid February target, would you say that was an adequate or inadequate roll out? If there was capacity to achieve more then it's clearly inadequate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, gav-ffc said: Maybe Scotland could boost numbers by including offered vaccinations in the numbers Childish patter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gaz said: Wait, are folk actually making comparisons between how many vaccines have been 'offered' and how many have actually been given? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Michael W said: Regardless of the language, the existing number of vaccines given in England is currently proportionately higher than Scotland . Hopefully the whole of the UK can ramp up so we can start to exit this nightmare. It will be impossible for Scotland to finish 1st in this race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: If there was capacity to achieve more then it's clearly inadequate. So basically it doesn't matter whether they hit the target or not then - a target that is shared across 4 nations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 THat's the article behind the tweet TiG linked to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, renton said: So basically it doesn't matter whether they hit the target or not then - a target that is shared across 4 nations. Of course it matters. Not hitting it is not acceptable by any means. But at the same time if they could have achieved much more then it was an inadequate target. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, madwullie said: Study today showing that covid antibodies cross the placenta in the vast majority of cases and confer immunity on newborn infants from the mother. Fucking brilliant. Dunno if this is normal stuff in terns of immunity, but sounds pretty fucking excellent to me Thus helping the long-term process of SARS-CoV-2 likely becoming a fifth common cold strain. 2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Interesting. The SG's roll out looks even worse now. #FreemanMustWalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 9 hours ago, GordonS said: Some highlights from a year ago today (and yesterday). Different times. Tbf I am quite pleased with my contribution. Possibly the first Covid-related RonPaul.gif worldwide? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Quote Posted at 8:00 Top adviser hopes for normality by summer Getty ImagesCopyright: Getty Images Dr Mike Tildesley, an infectious disease expert who advises the government, says the UK's lockdown measures could begin to be eased in March if the pace of vaccinations stays high, and if jabs are shown to prevent transmission, not just severe infection. He tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme that any easing would have to happen gradually. “We need to be very careful,” he adds. Research into whether vaccines prevent transmission is currently ongoing but it's believed they do have some effect, Tildesley says. Vaccines would need to be “pretty good” at blocking transmission “to avoid a resurgence” of the virus when measures are eased, he adds. “Hopefully by the summer we can get back to something pretty close to what we have seen before the pandemic as normal.” Since jabs are not 100% effective at preventing symptoms in people, he says, eased restrictions will create more risk for those who have not had a jab. That's a bit more like it, ya c**ts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigkillie Posted February 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) This latest little exchange is just another example of Todd's entire posting strategy on this thread being exactly that of a conspiracy theorist, which probably isn't surprising given his views on other topics. Start with a position, continue to warp reality to back-up that position as the the evidence builds up against that position, then once the evidence is overwhelming just move on, pretend it never happened and take up another position. It's basically the online posting equivalent of guerilla warfare. People taking up this sort of argument never explain what would actually be acceptable to them, instead preferring the shifting sands approach of saying that what ever is being done now isn't enough. That means that, of course, sometimes he is right and people agree with him, such as the slow initial roll-out of vaccinations, and that buys him a wee bit of authority that means he can just about make through the occasions where he's wrong, such as this attempt to compare apples and oranges, without losing all credibility (though in reality the "over as a public health crisis" stuff should have done that). You can absolutely guarantee that however many vaccines are being done, however quickly restrictions are lifted, it won't be fast enough for him. Anyone defending the current position for absolutely any reason will be written off as a simp, an SNP fanboy or whatever else. That's what sets Todd and his ilk apart from many others on this forum - we all have a idea in our head of what we'd like to happen, and will adapt that based on the circumstances. Most of us have been critical of the Scottish government on plenty of occasions throughout the last year, based on these views, but have on other occasions felt they were doing the right thing to some extent. The Todds of this world, and also some of the genuine SNP/indy fanboys on the other side, very rarely do anything other than criticise their particular government of choice. Edited February 1, 2021 by craigkillie 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I do enjoy the "aha! Offered only means they have a slot in the next couple of weeks" chat, as though the SG have actually completed their care home roll out. Ultimately, if there is any time between the last of those offered the vaccine in England actually getting their vaccine, and the last of the care home residents in Scotland actually getting theirs, it'll be about a week. Hardly a glowing defence of the SG strategy. But another fantastic example of doing everything possible to avoid criticising. You're just making this pish up now. No one is doing everything possible to avoid criticising SG. There has been plenty of criticism where merited. In this case, a tweet stating care home residents in England being 'offered' vaccines is not it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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