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[Burnieman]

I genuinely don't care about independence right now. It's not at the top of my priority list.

Pubs more important.

[D.A.F.C]

48 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

I'd like to think that anyone considering a non-SNP vote in May would never, ever under any circumstances turn that into a pro-tory vote.

There's plenty of excuse to be critical of the party you lend your support to and plenty to be said for exploring and looking to cast your vote elsewhere if unhappy with their handling of a situation, however empty a gesture that may be. If none of the parties tick the boxes for me, so be it. I won't fucking vote. No-one will tell me I'm not allowed a political opinion for not voting if literally none of the parties on the ballot paper are up to scratch.

There's no excuse though, for that vote being directed in the way of the tory party. That idea can resoundingly f**k off.

 No idea who else you can vote for, can’t vote Tory and Labour are a mess and I said I’d never vote for them after Iraq. 
TBH the original snp vote was a protest against Labour then I started getting into independence. 
Scottish politics is a total shitshow run by the only semi competent party and it’s not pretty. 
Drugs death capital of Europe, supposed education issues, failure to win yes vote, salmond and other msp scandals, poor handling of covid. 
At least it wasn’t Labour in charge I suppose. As said before most of the top talent goes down south to Westminster which is ironic.

[Kneal Down Caster]

I’m sure they’re shitting themselves.
There’s a couple of dozen posters on here who think their reflecting a wider view when in reality it’s a tiny echo chamber.

Very TRUE, TRue, true ..........

[Kneal Down Caster]

I hope I get the conventional needle. This anal stick seems a bit experimental.

Not in chyna it’s not.

[madwullie]

1 hour ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Fair enough. Not what I took from it given he was directly quoting VT’s post.

@djchapstickswas right. Not my best attempt at expressing myself. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I don't think i've ever proclaimed Scotland's total excess deaths were A good, or B represented a good response.
But crack on.

Where did I mention Scotland?

You have a history of playing down covid deaths.

Or have you forgotten?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

And this beauty as well.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55967767

The AZ vaccine offers limited protection against the South African variant.

 

[madwullie]

39 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55967767

The AZ vaccine offers limited protection against the South African variant.

 

Glad everyone I've heard of got the Pfizer one  

[Guest]

Good to see Todd wanting to vote Tory for his own selfish gain like every other Tory. f**k the poor ah want ma holidays and a pint.

[LongTimeLurker]

4 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55967767

The AZ vaccine offers limited protection against the South African variant.

At the end of the article:

...Dr Michael Head, a senior research fellow in global health at Southampton University, said that if the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine was less protective against mild disease but prevented severe disease this would "still be a pretty good outcome".

"I don't think we need to be too alarmed by [the reported findings] as yet but we do need to see the full study to work out what the implications really are," he told the BBC

The content of the article is good news overall although it won't be spun that way by media outlets looking for a click baity headline. Mainly younger healthy people studied so they can't draw definite conclusions about severe outcomes but immune responses are still being observed, so the vaccine is still working against the SA variant.

Not mentioned is that South Africa has recently received OxfordAZ doses from India to vaccinate its health care workers. The strong Indian role on producing OxfordAZ maybe muddies the water too much where vaccine nationalism is concerned.

 

 

[Granny Danger]

2 hours ago, Empty It said:

Good to see Todd wanting to vote Tory for his own selfish gain like every other Tory. f**k the poor ah want ma holidays and a pint.

“I’ll vote Tory if it allows me to go for a pint” would be an astounding position for most posters.  But, lone behold, it’s about what I’d expect from ‘the main players’ on here.

Edited February 7, 2021 by Granny Danger

[djchapsticks]

6 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

 No idea who else you can vote for, can’t vote Tory and Labour are a mess and I said I’d never vote for them after Iraq. 
TBH the original snp vote was a protest against Labour then I started getting into independence. 
Scottish politics is a total shitshow run by the only semi competent party and it’s not pretty. 
Drugs death capital of Europe, supposed education issues, failure to win yes vote, salmond and other msp scandals, poor handling of covid. 
At least it wasn’t Labour in charge I suppose. As said before most of the top talent goes down south to Westminster which is ironic.

Pretty much my take, only difference for my never voting Labour is that when the cards were on the table in the first referendum, they went with the Tory tactic of complete fear mongering, dragging out arseholes like Gordon Brown to tell a pack of lies on their and the tories behalf. I had vowed at that point that I was done with ever considering them. Their entire manifesto to Scottish folk at a GE nowadays is that by voting SNP, its making it impossible for them to get back in to power. An issue wholly of their own making. 

Agree with what you say though, not sure who else you can vote for outside the SNP, which is why for the first time in my life I'm erring towards no-one... something  I had always thought I'd never do. 

 

[Wee Bully]

“I’ll vote Tory if it allows me to go for a pint” would be an astounding position for post posters.  But, lone behold, it’s about what I’d expect from ‘the main players’ on here.

He was always going to vote Tory.

Every post on here pointed that way, and finally the mask has slipped. His “hot takes” are straight out of the Toby Young playbook.

[Bairnardo]

32 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

“I’ll vote Tory if it allows me to go for a pint” would be an astounding position for post posters.  But, lone behold, it’s about what I’d expect from ‘the main players’ on here.

As much as I agree with you re voting Tory, something I would never ever consider doing, I also would never have dreamed of voting for Brexit, as I felt is was a singularly stupid thing to do with not one shred of a redeeming feature. So you know, glass houses etc.

[Rugster]

13 hours ago, Elixir said:

Still educated to Master's degree level, champ.

Edit: and you missed a 'the'. 

Not in English, clearly. 

[djchapsticks]

14 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

As much as I agree with you re voting Tory, something I would never ever consider doing, I also would never have dreamed of voting for Brexit, as I felt is was a singularly stupid thing to do with not one shred of a redeeming feature. So you know, glass houses etc.

This. No one who voted for Brexit is in any sort of position to lecture on poor voting choices. 

[eez-eh]

11 hours ago, 101 said:

It's not relative though is it? You have a list of fully independent countries (and Palestine that is basically stateless) completely pointless and infact the most outspoken advisors, in public anyway, promotes New Zealand style lockdown initially that would have kept deaths low. Until we are independent and have full control of our borders and economic policy it's impossible to compare Scotland with countries that have access to both of those things.

This is complete bollocks.

Advisors and ministers were on the news only a matter of weeks before lockdown stating that social distancing and masks make next to no difference. The Scottish government had no issue with an Old Firm game going ahead with a full crowd in the middle of March until the footballing authorities saw sense and canned that weekend’s fixtures.

Save us the bullshit.

[Bairnardo]

1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:

This. No one who voted for Brexit is in any sort of position to lecture on poor voting choices. 

I am in the same boat as you tbh. Increasingly seething with the government, and by May that anger will either have subsided or risen exponentially which will ultimately determine which of my only 2 conceivable options I pick.

 

I will either, be able to sufficiently hold my nose to vote SNP, OR I won't vote at all due to a lack of credible alternative and a refusal to vote FOR anything that would hinder independence.

[Granny Danger]

1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:

As much as I agree with you re voting Tory, something I would never ever consider doing, I also would never have dreamed of voting for Brexit, as I felt is was a singularly stupid thing to do with not one shred of a redeeming feature. So you know, glass houses etc.

If you’re really interested (which I doubt) pop over to the politics thread where you will see my misplaced reasoning and my many retractions of that position.

Though you’re probably more interested in scoring cheap points/garnering greenies.