pub car king Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Sturgeon is being a bit cany here. Very vague with it all but only a 3 week turn around compared to Boris saying 5 weeks in England. Infection is already far lower in Scotland and with an election in May don't be surprised to see some steps brought forward in time for the polls opening. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, 101 said: You passport is just a key to a database like when they get swiped at an airport I assume it just brings up all the information on the holder no reason that it could be an app with a photo card and basically a QR code or showing the current visas you hold and the countries you have visited. If you know the right people you can get a passport made and I don't doubt if it was electronic you could also get someone to make a good imitation but if you could get the terminals that the border force folk sit are augment the app then I think without actually hacking the background code undetected then I think it would be fairly difficult to commit fraud. And IT systems are only as good as the programming and design which is why the public sector need to have a good skill base inside their organisations rather than handing entire projects over to the private sector with non technical oversight. All very true. I think it's more of a comfort thing having a physical passport, a physical driving license. Having something tangible gives an air of security and the illusion of some control to a degree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, 101 said: You passport is just a key to a database like when they get swiped at an airport I assume it just brings up all the information on the holder no reason that it could be an app with a photo card and basically a QR code or showing the current visas you hold and the countries you have visited. If you know the right people you can get a passport made and I don't doubt if it was electronic you could also get someone to make a good imitation but if you could get the terminals that the border force folk sit are augment the app then I think without actually hacking the background code undetected then I think it would be fairly difficult to commit fraud. And IT systems are only as good as the programming and design which is why the public sector need to have a good skill base inside their organisations rather than handing entire projects over to the private sector with non technical oversight. Fully digital systems are well known to exclude groups like the elderly who do not embrace digital. This may change in a few years as younger generations that have known digital all their lives become the elderly but is totally impractical at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, 101 said: Utterly mental attitude if you take veganism to that degree you are basically going to have to refuse most if not all drug based medical treatment in a hospital. I agree it's a strange attitude (from yours and my perspective) but who are we to decide someone else's morals and ethics are wrong? Veganism is like religion to some people. Some are more fanatical about it than others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, pub car king said: Sturgeon is being a bit cany here. Very vague with it all but only a 3 week turn around compared to Boris saying 5 weeks in England. Infection is already far lower in Scotland and with an election in May don't be surprised to see some steps brought forward in time for the polls opening. I think there is some truth in what you say, the opinion polls will have a massive influence on the policy throughout April and May. NS did say that if downward trends continue then they may make changes faster so she is giving herself wiggle room. The May election is massively significant, as I've said before. If we are in a situation whereby level 3 is all we are getting (and it may well be even more limited than it is just now) then more and more businesses will be folding and unemployment will continue to rise. It's not a great situation for any incumbent government going into an election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, Left Back said: I agree it's a strange attitude (from yours and my perspective) but who are we to decide someone else's morals and ethics are wrong? Veganism is like religion to some people. Some are more fanatical about it than others. I'm deciding it's wrong based on the fact they will almost certainly change their morals and ethics when it suits them, for example they aren't going to refuse treatment if they are seriously ill, well I highly doubt they will. The most fanatical religious people are either kept away from society in communes and such or blow folk up. I wouldn't criticise a monk because their life and choices have no bearing on mine, good luck to them. I will decide that blowing people up is wrong because it is the wrong thing to do. There are ways to practice faith in s fanatical way but I personally believe it should be done in a way that doesn't impact other, so if the vegans want to go off and live in a camp with littler or no medical aid on the understanding that if anything goes wrong no one is coming to help then fair enough but say the person had Covid was then admitted into hospital for something they felt they could excuse their morals for they could be putting people at risk who don't have a choice to take the vaccine or not. Sorry that's a bit of a ramble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I think there is some truth in what you say, the opinion polls will have a massive influence on the policy throughout April and May. NS did say that if downward trends continue then they may make changes faster so she is giving herself wiggle room. The May election is massively significant, as I've said before. If we are in a situation whereby level 3 is all we are getting (and it may well be even more limited than it is just now) then more and more businesses will be folding and unemployment will continue to rise. It's not a great situation for any incumbent government going into an election.It will be accelerated if at all possible. I’m confidently predicting indoor hospitality open by the end of April provided we continue the current trends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghPar1975 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Like most i'm disappointed with yesterday but there does seem little difference to BoJo's in terms of overall timings. I'm expecting little updates before March 15th but will be watching the daily figures, week on week comparisons and infection percentages and hoping they continue to drop (as well as the hospital admissions and ICU beds) to allow a far more detailed update at the next 'milestone'. The one thing that may be the biggest benefit in helping things move a little quicker (or allow an eased lifting of restrictions) may be the 3 week review timeline the SG are working with 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Snafu said: Who are they misleading? Daily Mail readers? Aye, that will obviously be their chief aim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, pub car king said: Sturgeon is being a bit cany here. Very vague with it all but only a 3 week turn around compared to Boris saying 5 weeks in England. Infection is already far lower in Scotland and with an election in May don't be surprised to see some steps brought forward in time for the polls opening. "Underpromise, Overdeliver." It's not the most original, or fiendishly Machiavellian of strategies. Boris seems to lean more towards "Overpromise, Blame the foreigners" which is quite reliable and well established as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Wee Nicky pissing off business even further: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56180822 -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Canny even get a quiet day in the house.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Canny even get a quiet day in the house....Is that from his latest Oscar winning performance?That advert pisses me off much more than it probably should. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, super_carson said: I think there is some truth in what you say, the opinion polls will have a massive influence on the policy throughout April and May. NS did say that if downward trends continue then they may make changes faster so she is giving herself wiggle room. The May election is massively significant, as I've said before. If we are in a situation whereby level 3 is all we are getting (and it may well be even more limited than it is just now) then more and more businesses will be folding and unemployment will continue to rise. It's not a great situation for any incumbent government going into an election. She is walking a very fine line. They are still going to win the election, probably by a mile, but if they piss about too much, there is still the possibility support might drop enough to prevent them getting a majority - something which is tricky enough given how the electoral system works for the Scottish Parliament. Bringing things forward to look good seems like the only possible course of action, quite frankly, but the longer it goes on, the more damage it does to businesses and people's livelihoods. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Is that from his latest Oscar winning performance?That advert pisses me off much more than it probably should. Yes it's quite the Tour De Force in moving from one chair to another being a Sanctimonious p***k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Why would a business demand a system that might exclude customers?Why would they get sued if someone catches covid on their premises? A business isn’t held responsible for a customer catching a respiratory infection from another customer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Why would a business demand a system that might exclude customers? Why would they get sued if someone catches covid on their premises? A business isn’t held responsible for a customer catching a respiratory infection from another customer I think this is the reason why if anything happens, it will be a fad at first before the economic reality sets in - that eventually people won't give a shit and by excluding a small, but not insignificant section of society, it will effectively cap revenues. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Would the drink not count as some sort of liquid cannibalism as well?Portion control's Shite, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Are you at a new prison? I thought you lived next door to your work?Aye, after I had a stroke in September 2019, my recovery wasn't good enough to fulfill the more physical (enjoyable)parts of the Officer role. The Governor regraded (downgraded) me to Support Grade. Fortunately, my H&S work and qualifications made me a good fit to cover a long term absence, at a better pay grade, at a different nick*. That absence has become a vacancy, so just waiting for the post to go to interview now. Can't see too many others going for the job with Covid around, so hopeful it'll get firmed up. Weirdly, I'll lose money by getting it permanent, because I'm currently getting paid travel subs..*Think Mulberry bush.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Probably because of all the lies going around that the vaccines contain pork, or other animal products, or aborted foetal cells etc.Or perhaps influenced by a deep seated cultural suspicion of the white races, based on centuries of exploitation, conquest, slavery and discrimination. Who knows? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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