Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Wee-Bey]

Absolute nap the Johnson and Johnson one is the one with the Bill Gates microchip in it.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Any two dose vaccine will only need a single booster in future.

It will be the go to one because there will be under 18s and those who have never been vaccinated who may need it.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I personally won't book a holiday unless it is somewhere where everything is open in the hotel and resort.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Absolute nap the Johnson and Johnson one is the one with the Bill Gates microchip in it.

I hope it's better than their talcum powder............

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44816805

 

[Ad Lib]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

How can one person being unvaccinated possibly risk someone else's health?

Because they’re then more likely to get COVID and (both “therefore” and “also”) more likely to transmit it to others, including those who are vaccinated but for whom the vaccine hasn’t provided 100% protection against (a) serious illness (b) moderate or mild illness or (c) asymptomatic infection which can then still be transmitted again because, to go full circle, the vaccines don’t offer 100% protection against transmission.

Gosh, if only there were a smug p***k who pointed this out on Saturday. Oh wait.

 

[Sergeant Wilson]

22 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

I personally won't book a holiday unless it is somewhere where everything is open in the hotel and resort.
 

You'll go where Bill Gates sends you.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

I personally won't book a holiday unless it is somewhere where everything is open in the hotel and resort.

I wouldn’t book a holiday to any destination that has mandatory masks outdoors, curfews, restrictions on hospitality etc
Why bother? I’d rather just wait till this is over tbh

[Michael W]

48 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

It will be the go to one because there will be under 18s and those who have never been vaccinated who may need it.

The single dose vaccine seems by far the easiest to administer in schools as well, whenever approval can be given. 

[Detournement]

23 minutes ago, Ad Lib said:

Because they’re then more likely to get COVID and (both “therefore” and “also”) more likely to transmit it to others, including those who are vaccinated but for whom the vaccine hasn’t provided 100% protection against (a) serious illness (b) moderate or mild illness or (c) asymptomatic infection which can then still be transmitted again because, to go full circle, the vaccines don’t offer 100% protection against transmission.

Gosh, if only there were a smug p***k who pointed this out on Saturday. Oh wait.

 

The minimal risk of being slightly more infectious isn't enough to ban people from public places for life. 

Infections levels will naturally fall away over time as will infection severity. 

[Elixir]

26 minutes ago, Ad Lib said:

Because they’re then more likely to get COVID and (both “therefore” and “also”) more likely to transmit it to others, including those who are vaccinated but for whom the vaccine hasn’t provided 100% protection against (a) serious illness (b) moderate or mild illness or (c) asymptomatic infection which can then still be transmitted again because, to go full circle, the vaccines don’t offer 100% protection against transmission.

Gosh, if only there were a smug p***k who pointed this out on Saturday. Oh wait.

 

Your mewling now is just as pointless tonight as it was then as well.

SARS-CoV-2 is going to be reduced to the level of risk we have always accepted for the >200 respiratory viruses which circulate in humans, and for which we have never mandated 'domestic vaccine passports'.

[Ad Lib]

15 minutes ago, Detournement said:

The minimal risk of being slightly more infectious isn't enough to ban people from public places for life.

So either vaccines don’t significantly reduce infectiousness (in which case we shouldn’t be as optimistic about lifting restrictions as a lot of people on this thread as it means a much higher proportion of the population need to be vaccinated)

Or vaccines significantly reduce infectiousness, in which case we should be shunning and treating like rabid dogs those who won’t take them as they’re a danger to other people while we are rolling out the vaccine.

Which is it?

15 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Infections levels will naturally fall away over time as will infection severity. 

Yes but in the here and now those who refuse a vaccine pose a non-zero greater risk than those who don’t.

So they’d better have a really good reason for not taking the vaccine.

Otherwise they should be banned from Sainsbury’s.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

You seem to have ignored the very specific thing he said about ATOL protection so you get your money back if it goes pear shaped.  It wasn’t the free for all you implied.

That covers flights and package deals - it won't cover DIY trips where you book the flights, accommodation and transfers in seperate bookings.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Companies have never stopped selling holidays, although a few Airlines have recently pushed their availability calendars back to July.
I've got lots booked for the coming year but all on free cancellation and pay on arrival basis so no risk involved.

Some have been excellent with refunds - Jet2holidays among the best. Tui were awful at one point but have turned things right round and are one of the quicker refunders.

The worst, no surprise, Ryanair and Easyjet.

[Ad Lib]

20 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Your mewling now is just as pointless tonight as it was then as well.

SARS-CoV-2 is going to be reduced to the level of risk we have always accepted for the >200 respiratory viruses which circulate in humans, and for which we have never mandated 'domestic vaccine passports'.

And when it’s there angels can stand on pinheads.

For now it’s not that mundane. So into the Sainsbury ban for you.

[Left Back]

13 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

2 hours ago, Left Back said:

You seem to have ignored the very specific thing he said about ATOL protection so you get your money back if it goes pear shaped.  It wasn’t the free for all you implied.

That covers flights and package deals - it won't cover DIY trips where you book the flights, accommodation and transfers in seperate bookings.

You’re correct, and he explicitly said thats as well by saying go to your ATOL protected travel agent and book a package deal.

no-one is saying go wild and book like it’s 2019

[Left Back]

14 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Some have been excellent with refunds - Jet2holidays among the best. Tui were awful at one point but have turned things right round and are one of the quicker refunders.

The worst, no surprise, Ryanair and Easyjet.

We had flights to Lanzarote booked for a few weeks ago.  When Jet2 cancelled the inbound leg they refunded in a couple of days.  Easyjet took weeks.

[realmadrid]

3 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

They just want people to spend money regardless of what will happen. Its illegal to travel abroad so how can they be selling holidays?

Talk of festival tickets selling as well.

I'm sure coronavirus will book a holiday as well.

I work in travel and we have been selling holidays in France the whole pandemic.

We offer a covid guarantee and anyone who has not been able to travel last summer or this winter to ski has had their money refunded or transferred to another date

Bookings for winter season 2021-22 are through the roof. Many people are going to be disappointed when they wait for last minute deals

Are you suggesting we should do nothing until people can legally travel?

 

[realmadrid]

2 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

I realise you can get a refund or credit but it’s a huge gamble and just the government giving the travel industry a leg up. They can’t guarantee anything, people could be left stranded abroad ffs. They don’t give a monkeys.

Who is leaving anyone stranded abroad?

[realmadrid]

3 hours ago, Left Back said:

You seem to have ignored the very specific thing he said about ATOL protection so you get your money back if it goes pear shaped.  It wasn’t the free for all you implied.

You dont need to rely on ATOL

If you can find a good hotel or accommodation with a water tight guarantee and good reviews you will be fine.

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Some have been excellent with refunds - Jet2holidays among the best. Tui were awful at one point but have turned things right round and are one of the quicker refunders.

The worst, no surprise, Ryanair and Easyjet.

Ryanair are taking about 3 - 4 weeks at the moment for a refund once requested. 

They're quoting "7 days" if you reject the "instant voucher" but the last few I've requested have taken just under the month to appear back in my account, still, it's not like I'm going anywhere that I really need the money !!