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22 hours ago, superbigal said:

 

Daily Infections per 100K in 7 days Update:    A very good day in infection land. We drop to under 5% positivity which is a WHO measure.  I also believe we may well break through the 100 cases per 100K barrier tomorrow. Wales has fired ahead into the 70s.

Inverclyde has a 1.7% positivity and only 29 cases as it drops to 37.3 per 100K.    Also just take a look at Grampian Health board. Falkirk remains marooned at the top of the table, the whole area is lit up on the covid map like the flaring at Grangemouth itself.

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan,    Cases that day were 16,496 and test rate was 11.9%

Total cases latest 7 days are down from 5,736 to 5,570 , and the positive test goes from 5.0% to 4.9%  Cases per 100k goes from 105.0 to 102.0 down 2.86%

England 122.7 to 119.9 down 2.28% in last 24 hours.  Wales  82.0 to 78.8 down an impressive  3.90%  in last 24 hours , Northern Ireland 110.1 to 111.1 up 0.91% in last 24 hours.   UK Average is now  119.0 to 116.4  down 2.18%  in last 24 hours.

NHS FIGURES Forth Valley 187.2 to 186.2, Lanarkshire 155.6 to 152.9, Greater Glasgow & Clyde 134.1 to 131.6,  Lothian 117.8 to 115.9,  Ayrshire & Arran 126.4 to 113.2,      Fife  68.8 to 69.9, Tayside  56.8 to 55.6, D&G 55.1 to 51.1, Western Isles 41.2 to 48.7, Highland 46.0 to 43.8, Borders 35.5 to 34.6, Grampian 39.8 to 33.6,  Orkney 0.0 to 0.0 & Shetlands 0.0 to 0.0

Council progress in last 24 hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

Falkirk  223.1 to 219.4  The undisputed champions and still hardly dropping.

West Dunbartonshire  173.2 to 177.7  A jump up the table to second. Good old Clydebank.

North Lanarkshire  178.4 to 174.9 

West Lothian  179.7 to 174.8

Clackmannanshire 163.0 to 166.9

Glasgow City 142.0 to 144.4   Appear to be on the rise again. 11th to 6th place in no time.  Glaswegians eh !! 

East Ayrshire  177.9 to 144.3  The expected plunge continues down 18.89%

Stirling 139.1 to 140.1   

Renfrewshire  149.6 to 131.8  What a day down 11.90%

South Lanarkshire  131.3 to 129.5 

Midlothian 131.9 to 127.6

East Renfrewshire   127.7 to 120.4  Decent day down 5.72%

North Ayrshire 126.9 to 121.0 Decent near 5% drop

East Lothian  108.3 to 109.3

City Of Edinburgh 94.9 to 93.7 

East Dunbartonshire 93.9 to 93.0 

LARGE GAP

Fife  68.8 to 69.9

South Ayrshire 69.3 to 69.3

Dundee City  54.9 to 58.9 

Perth & Kinross  59.9 to 55.3   Good day down 7.68%

Moray 71.0 to 54.3 Great day down 23.52%

Highlands 53.9 to 52.2  

Dumfries & Galloway  55.1 to 51.1  Good day down 7.26%

Angus  54.2 to 50.8  Good day down 6.27%

Western Isles  41.2 to 48.7

Inverclyde 50.1 to 37.3  Amazing for the deprived. Have a beer. Down over 25%

Scottish  Borders 35.5 to 34.6

Aberdeenshire  37.1 to 34.1  Down another 8%

Aberdeen City  27.1 to 24.1 

Argyll & Bute  24.5 to 21.0

Orkney Island   0.0 to 0.0

Shetland Islands   0.0 to 0.0

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75 plus skews heavily towards women, is it because they spend so much time yapping in the supermarket or because most of the men don't live to be that auld?
Women live longer so all else being equal you would expect more women in that age group.

As a snapshot, it doesn't show much in terms of effect of vaccine, you would need to look at the percentage in each age group over time - you would now expect to the proportion of over 75s to decrease.
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35 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

What are you on about? I responded to the conversation specifically talking about the NHS impact, asking why we should care (other than obviously hoping that people don’t have a shite time, which is blatantly obvious) if the NHS isn’t overwhelmed. You responded with irrelevant mewling about being energy drained and ignored the question of what you propose we do, and then post the above suggesting it’s nothing to do with the NHS?

I actually quoted the post of yours which i was replying to. Yes, you posted earlier about the NHS, but I was not replying to that post.

Maybe you need a lie down.

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Just now, Rizzo said:

What is actually going on in falkirk that infection rates remain so high? Was there a cluster event or something that I missed?

Outbreak at the First Bus depot between Camelon and Larbert, amongst others.

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1 hour ago, D.A.F.C said:

I think that people are so desperate now they only want to hear one thing.

As long as it means freedom then everything else is wrong. Same people spent months slagging off the experts they are now praising and following because it sounds like a way out.

Don't blame them tbh. It just annoys me that I get criticised for being objective and if we go back to last March the same folk criticised me when I said it was disgraceful that people were ramming pubs full before lockdown. People get blinkered when it comes to self interest and forget the facts or past events. Again I can see why. It will be interesting to revisit this in a few months.

Yeah you’re certainly not wrong or without foundation in that first bit I’ve made bold. Usually you see the analogy  used for football fans, but on the whole, people are fickle. 

Like you say, don’t blame them and easy to understand why.

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23 minutes ago, Rizzo said:

What is actually going on in falkirk that infection rates remain so high? Was there a cluster event or something that I missed?

I’m unsure it’s as bad as the figures suggest but then I’m not entirely sure how the figures are calculated.

If hospital admissions with Covid are factored in then it’s possible that it’s the same thing as per a few months ago where Falkirk’s figures are being skewed and are slightly misleading due to the “Stirling effect” again.

22 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Outbreak at the First Bus depot between Camelon and Larbert, amongst others.

Small cluster at Whyte & Mackay in Grangemouth too though I think that was only 5 (?) people. 

There has also been murmurings amongst the full-time maws on Facebook of a few husbands and mini Covid clusters coming out of Ineos at Grangemouth but the big-wigs are wanting to keep it hush-hush because their manpower/shifts are stretched as it is. 

ETA - FWIW I’d imagine the likelihood is that the Ineos talk is bollux and I would imagine at least one of a few mates that work there probably would’ve let slip if true.

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1 hour ago, madwullie said:

I didn't mention a terrible winter, nor have the numerous modellers or scientists (including Whitty et al) who have suggested we may have to have some restrictions in place. 

Just to be clear, you're saying that those who say we may have a rocky winter are all only saying it to cover their arses? Scientists globally at this crucial juncture for the human race are chortling away at their cunning scoring a win-win? 

Regardless, it is an utterly stupid suggestion that we bin track and trace at not quite the the arse end of a pandemic, no matter how optimistic we're all feeling, when we've still to see how it fully plays out. IMO we should keep some of that infrastructure in place for the foreseeable anyway. 

Yes. Do you expect them at any point to point blank say "yeah, you can lift all restrictions now, there is no chance of another wave" because that's just not going to happen.

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35 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

I’ll ask again - what are you proposing? We stay in lockdown forever, after the point the NHS is no longer at risk, to avoid the risk to the absolutely minute number of people who might get ill enough to be hospitalised?

Explain what you actually want to happen here.

Yep, a wee lie down would do the world of good.

Before you go - I'm advocating (not proposing - unlike the Main Players, I don't believe I have any influence) that we move forward in a course which will in all probability fall between the two poles which most posters on this thread cling to as if their lives depended on it.

As I posted earlier, the NHS will always be at risk, Covid or no Covid, as long as the Tories are in power. It has long been a target for them, and anyone who thinks they will invest to ensure resilience after this pandemic is frankly deluded.

We'd have to define "absolutely minute", obviously. This is a number which could be in four figures a day nationally, as we have got used to and now see as good news and perfectly acceptable. It would be less than one (for me) were you to confine it to the immediate WRK family, comprisong 15 individuals over four generations.

Should we be re-opening society, backed by increased immunity and vaccines? Absolutely. Are we ensuring that we are doing this safely, and tackling potential problems before they occur? I don't believe so. Are the WM Government to be trusted to ensure normality returns in a timely fashion? Hell, no.

Importantly (imho) - am I feeling better or worse than a month ago? Much, much better. There is a shift in the balance of good news versus bad - mainly down to the vaccine. I think the Lockdown has continued a few weeks to long as the WM Government didn't trust (or didn't dare to believe) the efficacy of the various vaccines. The plan they have come up with stil feels a bit fag-packety, and of course has that "no sooner than" get-out clause liberally sprinkled thoughout, but we do appear to be moving in the right direction. Balance between a desire for normality and a need to remain safe is crucial. Opening schools as the first step gives me cause for concern.

Anyhoo, stay safe and enjoy your lie down.

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31 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

75 plus skews heavily towards women, is it because they spend so much time yapping in the supermarket or because most of the men don't live to be that auld?

Women do have a longer life expectancy - explained by my Grandpa as "married men die earlier because they want to."

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Have they ever mentioned what’s going to happen regarding testing once everyone has been offered the vaccine? Will folk still have to self isolate if they test positive/are a close contact? Surely testing (outwith lateral flow) and test and protect/track and trace should be binned come June or July 
Self isolation was listed as a possible winter measure ongoing so that suggests symptomatic testing would continue.
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3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
2 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:
Have they ever mentioned what’s going to happen regarding testing once everyone has been offered the vaccine? Will folk still have to self isolate if they test positive/are a close contact? Surely testing (outwith lateral flow) and test and protect/track and trace should be binned come June or July 

Self isolation was listed as a possible winter measure ongoing so that suggests symptomatic testing would continue.

There would need to be some changes to the system, though, otherwise you're going to end up (particularly with increased mixing) with large numbers of people isolating / off work until test results come back each time they get a wee cough or cold.

That's not really sustainable.

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2 hours ago, Steven W said:

Would be intrigued to know the age groups of these 769 (or more to the point have any of them been vaccinated - suspect not). Although case numbers are remaining at the same kind of level (maybe even dipping a bit, albeit very slowly), it would seem that cases aren't translating into hospitalisations. 

I can picture the move to the tier system being advanced at this rate (although I'm happy to stick with it through to end of Apr)

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