Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[GiGi]

6 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

And you're a p***k.

[Sergeant Wilson]

8 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

And you're a p***k.

Never up for debate.

[Todd_is_God]

4 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Of course you need to keep testing capabilities as people simply cannot go to their work with Covid even with vaccination and no one is expecting that to be the case. People will need a positive test result for sickness purposes.

Of course they can (and will).

Whether or not you should go to work if ill is a different story, but once we have covid at the same acceptable level of risk as, for example, flu then it's absolutely impractical to enforce self isolation. You'd never be in work in winter if you had to wait on a negative test result every time you developed a cough.

[NorthernLights]

21 minutes ago, madwullie said:

 

 

[Billy Jean King]

Of course they can (and will).
Whether or not you should go to work if ill is a different story, but once we have covid at the same acceptable level of risk as, for example, flu then it's absolutely impractical to enforce self isolation. You'd never be in work in winter if you had to wait on a negative test result every time you developed a cough.

I've never been to work with Flu in my life. Proper flu isn't something you should be passing on.

I doubt the public health advice will be "soldier on with Covid" and to suggest like theresnolight did there should not be testing is nonsense, there should be and will be.

[Donathan]

10 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Sitting in my house again and howling with laughter at The Seethe/Heads Gone from people who express concerns about restrictions ruining their lives to varying degrees.

^^^ Privileged nonsense

[Todd_is_God]

16 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

I've never been to work with Flu in my life. Proper flu isn't something you should be passing on.

I doubt the public health advice will be "soldier on with Covid" and to suggest like theresnolight did there should not be testing is nonsense, there should be and will be.

There is a clear difference between being floored with something (to the point you can't work), and having a mild cough.

"Sorry boss, i've coughed a few times this morning. I've booked a covid test and i'll see you in 10 days / after the result comes back if it's negative" is absolutely not going to be the norm for the forseeable.

Hourly paid emoyees especially are not going to risk putting their rent in jeopardy because they have a bit of a sore head and a cough either.

Covid testing will become like flu testing. It'll get done for moderate / severe cases only.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[Lyle Lanley]

The new tier level apparently.  

 

[8MileBU]

13 minutes ago, NorthernLights said:

 

A more apt song you’d struggle to find!

[renton]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesWard73/status/1365068150899957760

[MP_MFC]

The new tier level apparently.  
 

As published a week ago with all the caveats of changes and variations made to the levels as we knew them, that the BBC have only decided to lather up into a story 18 hours before the first of no doubt many updates is to be provided today for some weird reason.

[Elixir]

1 hour ago, AllSaint said:

Disappointed to see the echo chamber in full tin foil hat mode today. I get you all want an end to restrictions (no, that doesn’t make a Tory) but losing your collective minds before actually knowing the facts isn’t going to do any good.  It’s funny how one post can set off a chain reaction of moon howlers completely losing the plot. I’d  bet a substantial number of those didn’t even bother to click the link and realise it’s an article written taking absolutely no new information into account. 

It's quite literally already been laid out for all to see, you unbearable sycophant.

[Billy Jean King]

There is a clear difference between being floored with something (to the point you can't work), and having a mild cough.
"Sorry boss, i've coughed a few times this morning. I've booked a covid test and i'll see you in 10 days / after the result comes back if it's negative" is absolutely not going to be the norm for the forseeable.
Hourly paid emoyees especially are not going to risk putting their rent in jeopardy because they have a bit of a sore head and a cough either.
Covid testing will become like flu testing. It'll get done for moderate / severe cases only.

In that scenario the R number would be back to it's natural albeit vaccinated level (wasnt it 4 without 3 with) and cases will be through the roof. I accept there are people who don't get sick pay. That is shit but unfortunately a fact of life and that's a factor.

[Elixir]

What's that you say, no excess deaths by Easter but still under house arrest for at least another month after that, when we have a vaccine which will obliterate deaths and hospitalisations?

This banana republic-esque Government and its diddy advisers need fired straight into the Sun.

[Thereisalight..]

36 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

So all the talk of "at least this will stop folk going to work with a virus" is getting thrown in the bin already.

Of course you need to keep testing capabilities as people simply cannot go to their work with Covid even with vaccination and no one is expecting that to be the case. People will need a positive test result for sickness purposes.

Are you proposing we waste tens of thousands each day testing people? About 99% of them will have mild symptoms and maybe need to lie in bed for  2 days. Do you suggest we do this forever? 

[madwullie]

45 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

Not being negative but is it not more likely that the younger people are at work? whilst most of the over 75's will only be leaving the house to go to the shops once a week?

or have they been attending prohibition style speakeasys to play dominos and smoke cigars ?

Because its trends, I think that would already be covered. I'm no statistician tho so  

Edited March 2, 2021 by madwullie

[Todd_is_God]

3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

16 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

There is a clear difference between being floored with something (to the point you can't work), and having a mild cough.
"Sorry boss, i've coughed a few times this morning. I've booked a covid test and i'll see you in 10 days / after the result comes back if it's negative" is absolutely not going to be the norm for the forseeable.
Hourly paid emoyees especially are not going to risk putting their rent in jeopardy because they have a bit of a sore head and a cough either.
Covid testing will become like flu testing. It'll get done for moderate / severe cases only.

In that scenario the R number would be back to it's natural albeit vaccinated level (wasnt it 4 without 3 with) and cases will be through the roof. I accept there are people who don't get sick pay. That is shit but unfortunately a fact of life and that's a factor.

Well no they won't, as whilst it will still circulate at low level among the population, high vaccination rates mean it will have trouble infecting people, and even when it does manage to get someone, they are unlikely to have more than mild illness.

You appear to be either ignoring that, or you recognise it but still think anyone who has a mild example of any one of the laughably long list of covid symotoms will stay off work until getting a test, and will then be staying off work for 10 days if it's positive.

That might happen this winter, if they keep some sort of support in place, but beyond that it's absolutely not going to happen. And nor would it be justified.

[Elixir]

Quote

Britain’s Covid-19 vaccines may stop people passing on the virus “almost completely”, the head of immunisation at Public Health England has revealed.

Dr Mary Ramsay said grounds for hope that vaccination may achieve the holy grail of halting community transmission were emerging from new studies.

“What we don’t yet know is how long that might last and whether or not that will be enough to stop the infection spreading more widely in the population over time,” she told Radio 4’s Today on Tuesday

Either way, just get the pubs and borders open.

[madwullie]

6 minutes ago, Elixir said:

What's that you say, no excess deaths by Easter but still under house arrest for at least another month after that, when we have a vaccine which will obliterate deaths and hospitalisations?

This banana republic-esque Government and its diddy advisers need fired straight into the Sun.

As we already know, that will depend on how many covid deaths contribute to the zero excess deaths figure. 

[craigkillie]

8 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Because its trends, I think that would already be covered. I'm no statistician tho so  

Yes, this is correct. This is about rates of change, not absolute values.