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5 hours ago, stuart87 said:

 


They’ve absolutely lost the plot. The levels/tiers are going to be interesting next week.

 

I was gonna post a seething rant at the latest tweet but will save my seething posts until next week instead.

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4 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

She should just get a tombola and pull shit out of it every week, Hunger Games style.

It would be about as useful as their previous approaches to 'data, not dates'.

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3 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

3 weeks after the first dose 13% of people with blood cancer had an antibody response.

5 weeks after the first dose 8% of people with blood cancer had an antibody response.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-56351084?__twitter_impression=true

That some depressing stuff 😭

Christ that's grim. Is this the trial you were involved in? 

Especially depressing that the longer the gap between doses, the less protection is offered 😔 

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4 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

That's shite for the likes of Inverclyde who feasibly will have level 0 numbers to be lumped in with Glasgow becuase they are both part of GG&C. 

It just doesn't work. 

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4 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Christ that's grim. Is this the trial you were involved in? 

Especially depressing that the longer the gap between doses, the less protection is offered 😔 

Nah not my trial. Not had my bloods checked after vaccine yet but should be soon.

Hoping that Astrazeneca, which I had, is different as the 12 weeks interval seems to be the best compared to Pfizer. 

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7 hours ago, 8MileBU said:

Apologies for going slightly off topic but has anyone any experience of funeral protocol during a pandemic? I remember there being a bit of upset about the limited numbers able to attend funerals earlier in the pandemic but unsure what the script is now.

Sadly lost an old school pal last week and his funeral is this weekend. Obviously I understand I won’t be able to attend the funeral service in the chapel because of Covid, but I will pay my respects outside. However, I would like to attend at the cemetery if possible provided the family don’t ask for just immediate family only. Was just wondering if anyone knows whether families/undertakers etc have to ask or are somehow made to limit numbers at cemeteries too because of Covid?

I was at a crem couple weeks ago (prem baby didn’t make it, heartbreaking) we were socially distanced outside crem and there was a video link.

I would imagine graveside would be similar.

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23 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

That's shite for the likes of Inverclyde who feasibly will have level 0 numbers to be lumped in with Glasgow becuase they are both part of GG&C. 

It just doesn't work. 

Aye same here. Angus will probably have low numbers, but we'll be tied to Dundee which will be much higher. I'll be seething if i'm in an area with about 30 cases per 100K but have a holiday in the Highlands binned because we've been tied to Dundee. Get fucked with that. TBH if my accommodation provider isn't asking questions I'll be going anyway. I'm not burning annual leave for f**k all for the second spring in a row. ETA: Especially when by them I will likely have been jagged, as will virtually all vulnerable adults. 

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13 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

That's shite for the likes of Inverclyde who feasibly will have level 0 numbers to be lumped in with Glasgow becuase they are both part of GG&C. 

It just doesn't work. 

You could see the logic of it if the purpose of continuing restrictions was to stop hospital capacity being overwhelmed, but that's clearly not going to be the purpose of reintroducing the levels at the point where hospital capacity is comfortably coping. The plan underpinning the levels is surely going to be pursuing whatever the wider Covid strategy is, whether that's chasing elimination for years, waiting it out until every adult is vaccinated, or whatever.

Even if it was the case that it was about protecting hospital capacity and other GG&C hospitals were struggling, it would be easier to accept that logic if it wasn't for the fact that Inverclyde has a hospital which had the ITU capacity reduced during this pandemic, meaning some patients who could previously be treated at IRH now have to be transferred to QEUH, in the infinite wisdom of GG&C.

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The health board shift is only for travel. The levels will be the council areas. The statement that alarms me was that she hoped that the country would all move into the levels together..
That reeks of everybody to level 3 for the 1st 3 weeks.
I hope I misread her thoughts and she means everybody to at least level 3 but many in lower levels.

Clearly unless the finger is pulled out it is easy to categorise all the poorly progressing councils as in Forth Valley health board.


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8 hours ago, 8MileBU said:

Apologies for going slightly off topic but has anyone any experience of funeral protocol during a pandemic? I remember there being a bit of upset about the limited numbers able to attend funerals earlier in the pandemic but unsure what the script is now.

Sadly lost an old school pal last week and his funeral is this weekend. Obviously I understand I won’t be able to attend the funeral service in the chapel because of Covid, but I will pay my respects outside. However, I would like to attend at the cemetery if possible provided the family don’t ask for just immediate family only. Was just wondering if anyone knows whether families/undertakers etc have to ask or are somehow made to limit numbers at cemeteries too because of Covid?

Sorry for your loss, not been to a burial but I can't see it being a problem, maybe be a bit further than 2m away and hang back a bit. Should be able to stand by the road as the  cortège comes in as well

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5 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Have they published the data that what levels will be decided on yet? 

I actually think that Health Boards makes far more sense than local authorities especially when Test and Protect is being run by health boards but as outbreaks and clusters start to fall there really isn't much for them to do, so perhaps it's a way to get things moving faster if health boards are comfortable with the demand on their services.

Obviously I say this as someone in Fife so it doesn't really make any difference for us.

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Case numbers by council just isnt going to work this time around IMO. People in the areas with poorer numbers arent going to continue having their lives restricted whilst watching people in other areas get about it again. Specially not going into the better weather. Theres just no way it's happening like that again.

If stuff isnt open in your local area, you will travel or mix in households. The idea that anyone is going to accept another summer free of socialising whilst vaccines are cigaring their way round the country is nonsense.

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1 minute ago, Snafu said:

Known this for a while. Edinburgh needs to get the finger out with vaccinations.

Edinburgh coronavirus vaccine rate shown to be the worst in Scotland

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-coronavirus-vaccine-rate-shown-20058176

'Edinburgh's coronavirus vaccination rate has shown to be the lowest in Scotland, according to the latest figures.

Data published by Public Health Scotland has stated that 30.4 per cent of those in the city have had their first dose of the vaccine, which is currently behind other council areas.

In Glasgow, the figure is 32.4 per cent and in Dundee it is 42.1 per cent.

There are a number of reasons for why a figure could be lower in some areas, such as a younger or healthier population that are lower down in the priority groups.

However, Labour MP for Edinburgh South Ian Murray said he has been contacted by vaccinators in Edinburgh who have said they could dramatically increase rates if more people were offered appointments.

Speaking about the vaccination rates, he said:

“The vaccination figures in Edinburgh are simply not good enough, despite the incredible efforts of all those working hard to provide the jag to residents.

“I’ve been contacted by vaccinators in Edinburgh who are deeply concerned about the delays, and they insist they could comfortably vaccinate more people.

“This needs to be urgently addressed by the Scottish Government, and Edinburgh needs to get its fair share of vaccines.
“Across Scotland we were too slow with vaccine uptake at the start of the rollout, and while we have now caught up with the rest of the UK, Edinburgh cannot be left behind.

“We need to see a dramatic uptick in coverage, so that we can recover from Covid and rebuild following the pandemic.”

It comes as 1,809,158 have now received their first dose of the Covid vaccine across Scotland, after 691 new cases were reported on Wednesday (March 10).'

 

Could explain why our numbers are fluctuating/small rise the last couple days...

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