Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[djchapsticks]

3 hours ago, madwullie said:

Quite regularly throughout this thread, people have made wild accusations accusing other of wanting this harsh restriction in place, and of being scared of x, y and z and how pathetic they are. I was accused the other night of being paranoid about restrictions being lifted, then subsequently told my concern for, and observations about, the mental wellbeing of my own kids, meant I didn't give a f**k about adults. It's partisan nonsense. And zero hard feelings. This whole shitshow is a nightmare for everyone in their own way. 

Literally the only evidence of this, is that some people haven't been quite as gung ho with the critisicsm, or anti the pronouncements, or lengthy posts expressing outrage, disgust, anger at Devi and Co. Any pushback on that is taken to mean much much more than it actually means, and it all snowballs out of control. Or have wanted to wait and see a bit more before firing off both barrels into the media crafted opinions of the latest public enemy. Or wanted to see the actual science beifre making decisions. 

Fact is, we're all really on the same page. It's a manufactured division, grouping people into "teams" utterly ridiculously, because every single one of us wants the same things. 

I agree up to a point. 

4 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Now I remember, yet another example of someone getting the wrong end of the stick, charging in on behalf of a minority* and refusing to listen to a reasoned explanation of the context. 

Pathetic. 

*A PTTGOMN, but knicker-wetters who leap to defend specific groups against perceived slurs when those allegedly abused couldn't give a f**k. Just yesterday a fellow delegate ripped into someone on our course for using the word "Jock" - not about me, but in my presence. Funny thing was, they were using the word in its US context of sports enthusiast, and I am not, and never have been, what you would call a gym bunny or fitness freak. I was far more offended by the idea that I needed defending by a wee fella who is younger than half my kids.

This is the point. 

[Theroadlesstravelled]

P&B dreamin’

[Lyle Lanley]

1 hour ago, Scosha said:

 

“Prof Bauld warned international travel and mass gatherings were unlikely this summer but feels the data is heading in the right direction.”

Think we are trying to be positive to the future before the vast majority of us will be a seething mess on Tuesday when the new tiers are announced (myself included). 

[philpy]

8 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Now I remember, yet another example of someone getting the wrong end of the stick, charging in on behalf of a minority* and refusing to listen to a reasoned explanation of the context. 

Pathetic. 

*A PTTGOMN, but knicker-wetters who leap to defend specific groups against perceived slurs when those allegedly abused couldn't give a f**k. Just yesterday a fellow delegate ripped into someone on our course for using the word "Jock" - not about me, but in my presence. Funny thing was, they were using the word in its US context of sports enthusiast, and I am not, and never have been, what you would call a gym bunny or fitness freak. I was far more offended by the idea that I needed defending by a wee fella who is younger than half my kids.

KimI

[Wee Bully]

If you can get past that old boy I'd quite like to get away.  I didn't learn Spanish so I could show off down the local Mexican.
And I want to take the kids on Safari Next year, I don't think Blair Drummond will cut it.

No problem with you getting away old boy!

We could keep the restrictions to just Eastern Europe?

[Steven W]

Spent last night watching football, and missed this Linda Nails article.

Excellent news on the whole, and good to hear a bit of positivty. Seems it's on the back of the transmission study results yesterday. 

Bit disconcerting though (although perhaps not surprising) that she doesn't think mass gatherings will be on the go. But then, define what a mass gathering is.....

[MP_MFC]

50 folk in a Chapel is a mass, wonder if she's leaked a government u turn in response to the main players dismay at the recent announcement.

I'd expect mass gatherings to be festivals and the like. Outdoor events, especially those that can be ticketed and seating arrangements made, should be some of the first to return and I'd expect them long before the likes of Transmit.

[Ron Aldo]

Transmit is off until they find a suitable name change.   No way can an event that has transmit as its name proceed said the national clinical director, its too risky and we just don't know...

I'd agree with Jason. We just can't take the risk of the as yet undiscovered Trnsmt Vrnt emerging if it was to go ahead.

[Michael W]

6 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:

33 minutes ago, Tynierose said:

Transmit is off until they find a suitable name change.   No way can an event that has transmit as its name proceed said the national clinical director, its too risky and we just don't know...

I'd agree with Jason. We just can't take the risk of the as yet undiscovered Trnsmt Vrnt emerging if it was to go ahead.

The Grry Cnnmn variant. 

[Ron Aldo]

The Grry Cnnmn variant. 

The absolute worst variant.

[Mark Connolly]

If TRNSMT is getting binned, I could be swayed towards Jason and Devi's line of thinking tbh

[Guest]

10 hours ago, madwullie said:

Quite regularly throughout this thread, people have made wild accusations accusing other of wanting this harsh restriction in place, and of being scared of x, y and z and how pathetic they are. I was accused the other night of being paranoid about restrictions being lifted, then subsequently told my concern for, and observations about, the mental wellbeing of my own kids, meant I didn't give a f**k about adults. It's partisan nonsense. And zero hard feelings. This whole shitshow is a nightmare for everyone in their own way. 

Literally the only evidence of this, is that some people haven't been quite as gung ho with the critisicsm, or anti the pronouncements, or lengthy posts expressing outrage, disgust, anger at Devi and Co. Any pushback on that is taken to mean much much more than it actually means, and it all snowballs out of control. Or have wanted to wait and see a bit more before firing off both barrels into the media crafted opinions of the latest public enemy. Or wanted to see the actual science beifre making decisions. 

Fact is, we're all really on the same page. It's a manufactured division, grouping people into "teams" utterly ridiculously, because every single one of us wants the same things. 

Strangely enough "Devi" seems to get most of her coverage on here as I think I can count on the one hand the number of times I've heard her name mentioned in the msm since this pandemic began.

I should add that I don't venture on to Twitter nor Facebook so maybe she appears / is discussed there regularly ??

I also watch the SG update every day and again I think I've heard NS refer to her once and that was in relation to a journalists question, so personally I just don't really get why everyone gets so uptight about her ??

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Wee Bully said:

No problem with you getting away old boy!

We could keep the restrictions to just Eastern Europe?

Enough of that !!!

[madwullie]

17 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Strangely enough "Devi" seems to get most of her coverage on here as I think I can count on the one hand the number of times I've heard her name mentioned in the msm since this pandemic began.

I should add that I don't venture on to Twitter nor Facebook so maybe she appears / is discussed there regularly ??

I also watch the SG update every day and again I think I've heard NS refer to her once and that was in relation to a journalists question, so personally I just don't really get why everyone gets so uptight about her ??

If you look around European media, a lot of the scientific advisors that are regularly interviewed etc get panned by the proles. Whitty and Valance get it really tight down south just as an example, and much of the patter is similar to what we see on here for Leitch and Devi. If you just search sackchriswhitty on twitter, you'll see what I mean. Virtually identical stuff. 

I think it's because this is having such an impact on people's lives, that the perception is that there people's advice, or decisions, could seriously restrict what people can do - so if you disagree, or their ideas aren't popular, it's a bit worse than your manager constantly playing your left back at right back, or whatever. Like few other issues, this stuff affects absolutely everybody, so nothing is niche,

Edited March 13, 2021 by madwullie
f**k you effects / affects

[Guest]

France, Germany, Italy, Poland and Czech Rep would appear to be getting hit with a new wave, although maybe this is the same one that hit us in January ??

Obviously the vaccination figure in those countries are way behind ourselves, so hopefully the vaccine will prevent a big increase in infections over here and stop the majority of hospitalisations and deaths.

I'm sure we'll find out sooner or later and should we be successful in keeping the virus at bay, then that will provide a cast iron rationale for opening everything back up once everyone has been vaccinated.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 minutes ago, madwullie said:

If you look around European media, a lot of the scientific advisors that are regularly interviewed etc get panned by the proles. Whitty and Valance get it really tight down south just as an example, and much of the patter is similar to what we see on here for Leitch and Devi. If you just search sackchriswhitty on twitter, you'll see what I mean. Virtually identical stuff. 

I think it's because this is having such an impact on people's lives, that the perception is that there people's advice, or decisions, could seriously restrict what people can do - so if you disagree, or their ideas aren't popular, it's a bit worse than your manager constantly playing your left back at right back, or whatever. Like few other issues, this stuff affects absolutely everybody, so nothing is niche,

You may think that, but i personally dont like her because of her ‘make your own sunshine’ pish. Clownshoes and Devi get our ire because they both come across as out of touch, have been proven wrong so many times and make you want to set fire to the tv every time they come on. Say what you will about Whitty or VT but they have come across far better than what we have up here.

[madwullie]

9 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

You may think that, but i personally dont like her because of her ‘make your own sunshine’ pish. Clownshoes and Devi get our ire because they both come across as out of touch, have been proven wrong so many times and make you want to set fire to the tv every time they come on. Say what you will about Whitty or VT but they have come across far better than what we have up here.

Fair enough, that shit would grate. 

As for your last sentence, I genuinely think that's because we have Leitch et al saturating us, while they have these others. 

It's exactly the same patter - love the sound of their own voices, want restrictions to continue because it keeps them in the spotlight, obsessed with keeping people locked up, constantly getting shit wrong but won't admit it etc

[dirty dingus]

38 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Strangely enough "Devi" seems to get most of her coverage on here as I think I can count on the one hand the number of times I've heard her name mentioned in the msm since this pandemic began.

I should add that I don't venture on to Twitter nor Facebook so maybe she appears / is discussed there regularly ??

I also watch the SG update every day and again I think I've heard NS refer to her once and that was in relation to a journalists question, so personally I just don't really get why everyone gets so uptight about her ??

She was always one of the talking heads in the wee top corner box on gammon in chief Piers Morgans show. Think she pops up quite a lot on Sky too. BBC seem to be more for Linda as she is a bit more of a conservative looking MILF in a Fiona Bruce kind of way.

Edited March 13, 2021 by dirty dingus

[Sergeant Wilson]

12 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

You may think that, but i personally dont like her because of her ‘make your own sunshine’ pish. Clownshoes and Devi get our ire because they both come across as out of touch, have been proven wrong so many times and make you want to set fire to the tv every time they come on. Say what you will about Whitty or VT but they have come across far better than what we have up here.

Whitty, particularly, is a personality vacuum and he knows it. He deals with facts and numbers and can't wait to be out of the limelight. You can see others are simply doing their jobs, some with a bit of panache.

Sridhar and Leitch are trying to project their personalities and agendas with a view to promoting themselves and their philosophies.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Whitty, particularly, is a personality vacuum and he knows it. He deals with facts and numbers and can't wait to be out of the limelight. You can see others are simply doing their jobs, some with a bit of panache.
Sridhar and Leitch are trying to project their personalities and agendas with a view to promoting themselves and their philosophies.

Leitch is just a PR man who is enjoying his moment of fame.

It's interesting to listen to him - he never uses "I" but "we" - it's clear he has very little say in the key decisions - one of those people who try to make their role more important than it actually is.

Devi is a different kettle of fish in that she is giving advice to the Scottish Government - but again that needs to be qualified - she won't be the only one giving advice and she won't have the final say. My biggest complaint about her is not the advice she gives but the fact that she is all over Twitter trying to push it - she really does need to shut the f**k up sometimes and leave the decisions to the elected politicians.