Burnieman Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 It is abundantly clear we need to lift the restrictions on outdoor gatherings immediately. This legislation is now being used to silence legitimately peaceful acts that carry no risk of infection. That a fucking vigil for a dead woman was not permitted to take place is absolutely crazy. At some point, we need to accept that outdoor gatherings are not risky activities, and treat them appropriately. This has gone way too far now.It didn't last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I strongly feel that this would not be constitutional and a legal challenge would be successful. Even if it's watered down I think we'll be continuing on a trend of making any sorta vaguely threatening public dissent liable to face the full force of the law and the carceral state. The public already fucking hate any sort of disruption no matter how peaceful it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Binos said: General commentary on this thread is Bauld bad Srivdar bad Leitch bad Van tam good Whitty good Scottish cringe in full effect It's nothing to do with that. Whitty takes part in the same kind of adverts in England Leitch does up here. Down there, people view him the same way people do Leitch up here. Scientist says things people disagree with. People dislike the scientists message. Scientist is a shit scientist. That's ll that's happening here. If we were as exposed to him as they were, and he was behind the ear of those making decsions here, we'd see the same attitude towards him that we see towards Leitch and sridhar You just need to search sackchriswhitty on twitter to see for yourself. This isn't some mad speculation or niche social investigation I've done here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 It's nothing to do with that. Whitty takes part in the same kind of adverts in England Leitch does up here. Down there, people view him the same way people do Leitch up here. Scientist says things people disagree with. People dislike the scientists message. Scientist is a shit scientist. That's ll that's happening here. If we were as exposed to him as they were, and he was behind the ear of those making decsions here, we'd see the same attitude towards him that we see towards Leitch and sridhar You just need to search sackchriswhitty on twitter to see for yourself. This isn't some mad speculation or niche social investigation I've done here. Leitch isn't a scientist or the CMO. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: Thanks Rod. I was aware of that, but my parents are not in such bad health (well, my dad is, but my mum cares for him) that I could legally call myself their carers. They're about 90 mins away, and I've seen them once in the last 4 months. I'm not man who wants to break laws, but my dad won't be around for ever and I'm at the point when I'm weighing up the balance between what is legally and morally right. I'm afraid that if the SG insists, against all facts, figures and reason, that we have to stay locked in for another 2 moinths or whatever...I'm simply going to ignore it. You can definitely do what Icr suggested. I've done it for my dad. He's a shell of his former self but I don't think he'd be here now without twice weekly visits from me, and your mum could probably do with a bit of respite too (not that it's any of my fucking business) Edited March 14, 2021 by madwullie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Leitch isn't a scientist or the CMO. You know what I meant. He's a public face of our pandemic response - whitty serves the same function, amongst others, down south. I mean, have you ever seen this and his other adverts People say he's only in it for public exposure, that he is loving being on the telly and wants the restrictions to continue so he can stay in the spotlight. He's been wrong so many times but he's still on our TV telling us what we can't do - it's all in that hastag from last week when he reported the 30k projected deaths It's not even just here - public facing scientists/advisors across Europe are massively unpopular in certain places, for broadly similar reasons, as most places have had similar f**k ups and most people are tired of restrictions and bad news Edited March 14, 2021 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Even if it's watered down I think we'll be continuing on a trend of making any sorta vaguely threatening public dissent liable to face the full force of the law and the carceral state. The public already fucking hate any sort of disruption no matter how peaceful it is. Theres already sufficient legislation in sec 11/12 public order act to put conditions on processions and gatherings, its quite a clear piece of legislation so im at a loss as to the need for new legislation. I genuinely think argued on the basis that its overreach and that sufficient legislation is in place a challenge would be successful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Theres already sufficient legislation in sec 11/12 public order act to put conditions on processions and gatherings, its quite a clear piece of legislation so im at a loss as to the need for new legislation. I genuinely think argued on the basis that its overreach and that sufficient legislation is in place a challenge would be successful. Yup. The legislation is already draconian but I think Patel just really wants to be even tougher on crime if she can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Yup. The legislation is already draconian but I think Patel just really wants to be even tougher on crime if she can. You say draconian but i’ve seen it work and genuinely prevent massive problems, particularly when applied to marches which happen in the west of Scotland. Patel would introduce summary executions if she thought she could get away with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: You say draconian but i’ve seen it work and genuinely prevent massive problems, particularly when applied to marches which happen in the west of Scotland. I'm going to go to sleep instead of saying something rude. Have a good weekend ma man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Out for a walk today and we met a neighbour who comes from San Francisco. She showed us videos her family had sent her yesterday from California, all out for dinner and drinks because they have limited restrictions there....despite the fact that they have higher infection rates and lower vaccination rates than Scotland. I'm also at this moment watching the golf from Florida, with full crowds. Despite having higher infection rates and lower vaccination rates than Scotland. We, in the meanwhile, are locked down in caves while our government is simply too terrified....too paralysed by fear..... to make a decision to lift restrictions and allow us even a semblence of normality. My mum and dad are in their late 80's, vaccinated, in bad health, but live in another LA where legally I can't travel. If the government try to extend this restriction beyond the end of the month I'll be e-mailing them to tell them that I'm travelling to see my parents as often as possible and as much as I want. I'll also be adding that they can forget about my vote in May, and oh aye, they can f**k right off. Just for the record, the golf is miles away from having full crowds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Wile E Coyote said: The new baseball season starts in about 3 weeks. Texas Rangers have announced they will be at full crowd capacity from the first game. Stadium holds about 47,000 Wrestlemania is expected to have 75% capacity for both nights in a few weeks time in Tampa Bay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Wrestlemania is expected to have 75% capacity for both nights in a few weeks time in Tampa Bay. A particularly bad decision given the average BMI of the losers who actually watch wrestling. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Whilst Im not happy with the lack of published detail and general approach to removing restrictions, copying Texas and Florida isnt the most sensible blueprint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Yup. The legislation is already draconian but I think Patel just really wants to be even tougher on crime if she can.She says crime, what she means is any kind of public dissent. By the way, last night's gathering on Clapham Common was a vigil, not a protest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: She says crime, what she means is any kind of public dissent. By the way, last night's gathering on Clapham Common was a vigil, not a protest. 1 : the act of keeping awake at times when sleep is customary also : a period of wakefulness. 2 : an event or a period of time when a person or group stays in a place and quietly waits, prays, etc., especially at night a candlelight vigil kept vigil at her bedside. Oh well, that's fine then in the middle of a pandemic where everyone else (except Rangers fans) have to adhere to a stay at home message, social distancing and not meeting up with friends......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Let's just hope the Rangers or Celtic fans don't decide to have a "vigil" after next weeks old firm game then......... Edited March 14, 2021 by WATTOO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, WATTOO said: 1 : the act of keeping awake at times when sleep is customary also : a period of wakefulness. 2 : an event or a period of time when a person or group stays in a place and quietly waits, prays, etc., especially at night a candlelight vigil kept vigil at her bedside. Oh well, that's fine then in the middle of a pandemic where everyone else (except Rangers fans) have to adhere to a stay at home message, social distancing and not meeting up with friends......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Let's just hope the Rangers or Celtic fans don't decide to have a "vigil" after next weeks old firm game then......... I'd have a vigil for your dear, departed senses, if you'd ever had any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 My mother in law died during this lockdown. My wife got to see her once after the doctors decided her cancer was terminal. Most of that lack of visitation was down to my insistence we follow the rules which prevented my wife visiting. With hindsight I was completely wrong with this attitude and I’ll regret it for the rest of my life.This is the single most candid post I've seen on this forum in the 14 odd years of being on here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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