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1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:
1 hour ago, virginton said:

 

I have zero idea what your "question" was. 

Run your finger under all the hard words until you find a question mark sign, then go ahead and answer it champ. 

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1 hour ago, O_Kahn said:

I wouldn't disagree with you on the exam fiasco, but primary aged kids missing 6 months off school will have a long-term effect.  I think the balance of risk, certainly with primary children, supports them going back.

Except that when the SG is using total cases and not deaths/hospitalitisations as a metric for reopening, the 'balance of risk' does not support this. 

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  I don't know a single person with kids under 12 who doesn't think it's been a fucked up year.

As opposed to whom exactly who has had a perfectly normal 12 months? 

The reality is that society has bent over backwards multiple times to minimise the impact on children's normality: so much so that is has contributed to most of the Central Belt of Scotland being under some degree of restrictions on everyday life for five months now.

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46 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
1 hour ago, ICTChris said:
For someone to get so many things wrong in such a small number of words is kind of admirable.

Making every min two adult families into millionaire households, wow that's some policy.

I’ll vote for that party.

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There is no debate to be had imo - the age group who have had it "worst" in the UK over the last 12 months are those who are about 16-22. Everything you've ever looked forward to for years at that age is banned, exams fiasco, job market completely destroyed and you're stuck in the house 23 hours a day.

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Just now, Marshmallo said:

There is no debate to be had imo - the age group who have had it "worst" in the UK over the last 12 months are those who are about 16-22. Everything you've ever looked forward to for years at that age is banned, exams fiasco, job market completely destroyed and you're stuck in the house 23 hours a day.

Yup.

I'm not a proponent of anecdotal evidence, being a mathematician and all, but of the pupils I see regularly (whilst supervising hub children, interactions online etc.) there are huge swathes of them having the time of their fucking lives. No school for a year, still get to hang about with their pals? I'd have been fucking loving it at that age.

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That's shite for the likes of Inverclyde who feasibly will have level 0 numbers to be lumped in with Glasgow becuase they are both part of GG&C. 
It just doesn't work. 
You have to draw lines somewhere with a tier system.

The problem with council areas is that smaller councils and those with lots of travel in/out were just unworkable.

At least using health boards links to the key area of hospitalisations and ICU numbers.
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1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:
1 hour ago, virginton said:
You still haven't answered my question champ.
Another day, another 6-0, 6-0 shoeing on this thread for Billy Jean.

I have zero idea what your "question" was. All I saw was a rant about barbers v schools which you invented then started arguing as if you had adopted a position based on someone else's opinion but hey ho nothing new there then. Anyway you'll be back in attending to the boiler and mopping up the spilt packed lunches again now the kids you love so much are back in your workplace. Enjoy !

Insinuating there is something negative and embarrassing about being a janitor, and using that to try and insult someone, isn’t a great look tbh.

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2 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

There is no debate to be had imo - the age group who have had it "worst" in the UK over the last 12 months are those who are about 16-22. Everything you've ever looked forward to for years at that age is banned, exams fiasco, job market completely destroyed and you're stuck in the house 23 hours a day.

Said that myself, all these sorta life affirming events and the development that folk of this age group go through and to be absolutely fair to them they have probably been the most resilient groups. I just hope the long term damage isnt as profound as it looks for them.

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1 hour ago, madwullie said:

Here's a question: my dog was up getting her haircut at the woman up the road today. Woman was saying her best pal just died of covid through the week there - had been on a ventilator since before Christmas and I think it had been pretty clear for some time she was on her way out. Anyway, will she be counted in the death stats given the 28 day rule? Do they keep testing you on hospital if it's clear you're still fucked with it, or is there another measure that she will be counted in if not the main one that's announced daily? 

The higher figure released weekly by NRS includes anyone with covid on the death certificate or where covid is thought to be a contributory factor regardless of how long ago they were tested. 

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To the surprise of absolutely no one, they have gone back up after opening schools.
Over the last 7 days, 0-14 year olds are the third highest group for new infections. So much so that 4% of all cases in that age group have occured in that time frame.
If they are going to worry about infection numbers for the levels system then schools, clearly, need to be treated the same as every other indoor space until we have vaccinated our adult population, however much this annoys parents.
 
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You do realise that schools have been open all through lockdown?

We have more in our hub than the 8% of Senior Phase pupils that have been in.
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16 minutes ago, Rugster said:

The higher figure released weekly by NRS includes anyone with covid on the death certificate or where covid is thought to be a contributory factor regardless of how long ago they were tested. 

Thanks mate. This woman was genuinely upset that her mate would not be counted at all in the figures. Kind of weird I suppose the stuff you get hung up on in the crap times. Doesn't seem to make any difference to me, but then my best pal didn't kick it. 

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31 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Insinuating there is something negative and embarrassing about being a janitor, and using that to try and insult someone, isn’t a great look tbh.

I suppose it is true that VT is very much a fair minded poster that plays the ball at all times and would never insinuate stuff about others to come across as a bit nasty or to win an internet argument, so it's only right to defend his honest and just posting style by pointing out the transgressions of others. And he certainly doesn't look down his nose at vast swathes of society he considers to be beneath him, cos if he did, we'd all be piling in pointing out what a poor tone there is to his posts 

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30 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Yup.

I'm not a proponent of anecdotal evidence, being a mathematician and all, but of the pupils I see regularly (whilst supervising hub children, interactions online etc.) there are huge swathes of them having the time of their fucking lives. No school for a year, still get to hang about with their pals? I'd have been fucking loving it at that age.

And likewise there are swathes of the adult population coining it in, and loving the impromptu year off work they've been having no doubt, gaming the system like a boss. That doesn't  mean that's the case for everyone though. And iirc it's teenagers and above you work with (although hub might not work that way) - many of whom have had their career prospects brutalised, exam predictions laughed at too, results downgraded based on where they live - the ones that give a shit anyway. 

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Absolutely and rightly focussed on mental health effects of the pandemic. But kids? Nah, they've got their switches and footballs. They'll be reet. Lucky b*****ds 

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