Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Snafu said: How can you tell the difference between someone say in Tesco using one for medical grounds from someone who's at it? You would need to ask them wouldn't you? Thats exactly the point which enrages me about the misuse of the lanyard, its a fantastic scheme which has been cheapened by people misusing it in terms of mask exemption. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I can understand people being wary of giving genetic ancestry data or recent medical files away to someone who might flog it to insurance or mortgage companies, but how could it harm you if it was widely known that you were Covid vaccinated? It's not about being harmed, it's about businesses asking personal medical questions they have no need to ask. As it currently stands, your vaccination status makes no difference as to whether or not you can use their services. I'd be interested to know why they want to know and what they will do with the information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Snafu said: Yeah, you'll always get that, like blue badge abuse. Dont get me started on blue badge abuse. Anyone found doing that should have their car scrapped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Todd_is_God said: It's not about being harmed, it's about businesses asking personal medical questions they have no need to ask. As it currently stands, your vaccination status makes no difference as to whether or not you can use their services. I'd be interested to know why they want to know and what they will do with the information. As said before, there are lots of countries where it makes a difference if you're booking a flight. Otherwise, maybe they're using it to gauge if you're reckless or inconsiderate before selling car insurance? It shouldn't really matter what postcode you live in or what job you do, but they use that to decide your risk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: It absolutely is a failure of the government to not combat the misinformation and brain dead pish about 5g and all the rest. I don't recall ever hearing anyone seriously talk about that kind of thing in the real world. It seems to be a very vocal minority of loons on social media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 No but i know a few doctors with asthma who manage no worries in warm operating theatres for hours on end. Regardless the people im referring to with the fags hanging out the mouth chain smoking saying they cant wear one because ‘asthma’ are the issue. Especially when they’ve never even had an inhaler for years. Every friend I know with asthma and my younger brother who had severe childhood asthma and still uses an inhaler as an adult all manage fine. Aye, me and my dad are both asthmatic but not bad. I’ll wear a face mask in a shop or that. Will I bin it when it moves to advisory? Probably , I’ll likely carry it with me in case I’m asked to put one on for getting in a taxi or something but I won’t go out my way to wear one more than I have to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, Johnny van Axeldongen said: I don't recall ever hearing anyone seriously talk about that kind of thing in the real world. It seems to be a very vocal minority of loons on social media. Unfortunately ive encountered quite a bit. As well as heard the mrs talk about conversations shes had with patients reassuring them about it too. In real terms its not even the hysterical stuff like 5g etc, the media whipping up stuff about blood clots when the contraceptive pill has a significantly higher instance etc has done considerable damage too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I suspect the quarantine after a week in BCM is going to he filed into the bin, tbf. At least we've not gone full Macron. Good excuse to dodge a "random" drug test at work though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 The business that asked me when I’d had my vaccine is a sports injury clinic. They’ve also required me to sign a document advising that I accept the risk of getting Covid at my appointment etc etc. Considering close contact is unavoidable at a clinic like this and that being double vaccinated vastly reduces the risk of transmission I think it’s perfectly fair for them to ask They didn’t actually ask me for proof either, I could’ve just lied. But I didn’t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: Considering close contact is unavoidable at a clinic like this and that being double vaccinated vastly reduces the risk of transmission I think it’s perfectly fair for them to ask I don't think it is tbh, but we aren't going to agree here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Went to an indoor crazy golf course in Dunfermline with the kids. It is like a huge balloon and was utterly roasting. Half of folk wore face masks. I kept mine on until the sixth hole. Couldn't last any longer and took it off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NorthernLights Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, supermik said: I took that as an attempt to put things into some sort of perspective. Instead a lot of the comments seem to be "BuT CaNcEr iSnT cOnTaGiOuS!!!!!!!" Edited July 14, 2021 by NorthernLights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I'm very concerned that the James Melville twitter account - which I do not believe to be used by a real person - is and has for a while regularly been saying things I agree with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) It's just a random statistic put against another to shock people. There's no vaccine for cancer to start with. Over half a million people die every year from non covid related things, the difference is that Covid deaths are actually becoming preventable. Edited July 14, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, supermik said: That’s a bad comparison. Will be interesting to see Covid v another contagious virus like the flu. Although I don’t believe such a comparison will exist at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's just a random statistic put against another to shock people. There's no vaccine for cancer to start with. Over half a million people die every year from non covid related things, the difference is that Covid deaths are actually becoming preventable. Flu deaths and road traffic deaths are also preventable if we were to apply extreme measures to do so. It will be very interesting to compare flu deaths and covid deaths over the coming winter, and view the difference in reactions. Of course that comparison will only really be possible if we test for flu in the same way we currently test for covid, or vice-versa, else we'll end up with "covid and flu combined infection deaths" outstripping both, giving the impression of a lethal combination that may or may not be true. Edited July 14, 2021 by Todd_is_God 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 13/07/2021 at 15:16, craigkillie said: The 2000 minimum applies to the Party at the Palace music festival, but they have presumably applied for and received permission for an increased number of attendees. Rangers (or any other club) could do the same under the exact same rules, and I'd fully expect them to do so. Seems PATP maybe didnt have permission for increase as it has just been cancelled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Flu deaths and road traffic deaths are also preventable if we were to apply extreme measures to do so. It will be very interesting to compare flu deaths and covid deaths over the coming winter, and view the difference in reactions. Of course that comparison will only really be possible if we test for flu in the same way we currently test for covid, or vice-versa, else we'll end up with "covid and flu combined infection deaths" outstripping both, giving the impression of a lethal combination that may or may not be true. It's never been about deaths though, it's been about the explosive infection rate and hospitalisation before the vaccine started having an effect. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It's never been about deaths though, it's been about the explosive infection rate and hospitalisation before the vaccine started having an effect. That's fair enough, but we're not there anymore. The vaccine has completely changed the playing field, yet the pre-vaccine mentality of "iTs nOt fLu" remains. Correct, it isn't, but it's impact at the most serious end appears now to be very comparable. We really do need to collectively stop looking at covid deaths as more tragic or preventable than any other deaths and accept that a relatively small number of people are going to get seriously ill and die as a result of it. Until we do that, we won't move on. It will be interesting to see at what point it becomes ok to declare the pandemic "over" Edited July 14, 2021 by Todd_is_God 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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