vikingTON Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: FM says changes will be made if and when the public health advice states the benefits outweigh the risks. Except that public health advisors are not even remotely qualified to calculate the benefits of binning restrictions, across the entire economy and society. The changes will actually be made once the Treasury turns off the tap completely and the SG's token support package cannot be supplemented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Snafu said: The common cold is a corona virus and there's a good reason why there is no vaccine for the common cold. Stealing paper clips from the office is theft, so is breaking into someone’s house and taking their valuables. So by your analysis they’re both the same. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: What is the context for this statement, please? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-59768968 FM Questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snafu said: The common cold is a corona virus and there's a good reason why there is no vaccine for the common cold. There is no such thing as a common cold virus. There are roughly 1000 different shan viruses that cause the same symptoms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, 101 said: Honestly as clear as mud. First it was the emergency services don't have the capacity, fair enough there is some logic to that although let's talk about increasing funding and building resilience and reducing the need to isolate. Then it was public transport which seemed to really only be based on old firm fans traveling round the country on busses as I would imagine most fans live in the locality to their ground and drive or walk or are on public transport for short periods of time, also public transport on the 26th December, good luck with that. Now its to show folk how much they should scale back their social contact. You advised three households was the right level, now butt out folks lives and let them decide if they want to take that advice or have a great time after 2 shit filled years with their nearest and dearest. Comms fucking disaster. Its absolutely obvious from the fact there isn't a united answer on this front that the SG have decided what they want to do before coming up with the best way to justify doing it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Snafu said: The SNP have been incredibly naive here. The latest variant has been used against them to discredit them, they have gone for it hook line and sinker. Everyone knew this variant was less dangerous than the Delta. Use worse case scenario in projection models and release to the advisors and to the media and sit back and watch what happens. Of course SAGE have been watching the data from South Africa. Scottish leaders nudged along by their over cautious science advisors and their pride seeing to be doing more than the 'reckless' UK Conservative Government. Boris on the purse strings keeping them shut knowing this situation would arise. The public now have the idea that all the other countries in the UK are dependent on England when it comes down to it. Blame thrown at the feet of the leaders of each country, while Boris looks after his own. Has the blame game started yet? Reputations need to be salvaged here, Indyref 2 now in the bin. Yeah the money given to help hospitality is a sick joke, but it might point to the fact that Scotland could now be financially broke. Its a bit like a plot for a soap opera, so it seems. Looks like it isn't but how does it compare to OG Covid? (I do not know this isn't a trap). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-59768968 FM Questions. To be fair in her exchange with DRoss who was pressing her on the new Omicron data she did say "days". I expect that barring some mental case explosion in the next 10 days or so we will start to see the latest restrictions being rolled back quite quickly, even before the 3wks stated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Binos Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, GeeJay said: Judging by the huge numbers of flu deaths every year for decades do you not think that should've happened? Based on the precedent that's been set to "keep us all safe" are you not pissed off at the authorities for playing fast and loose with your health pre-2020? If not, your anger is with the tyrannical governments, not the unvaxxed. Jesus christ no i do not think that should've happened -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 See if Westminster calls the devolved parliaments bluff and Doesn't actually impose any further restrictions and in 3 weeks hospital admissions are still looking calm and controlled . They surley can’t extend the restrictions beyond that point can they ? How long do they think we are gonna sit up here and look just a few hours down the road at full stadiums , open clubs etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, FuzzyBear said: Why ? What difference does it make to you if you are vaccinated if others are not ? You're aware we are entering another lockdown -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeJay Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Binos said: Jesus christ no i do not think that should've happened Found a job for you... https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/12/23/austria-looking-for-vaccine-refuser-hunters/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, itzdrk said: Looks like it isn't but how does it compare to OG Covid? (I do not know this isn't a trap). I think it would be nearly impossible to prove either way because of the large numbers of the population that have acquired immunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 It's amusing to see the screeching of the fake SAGE cult and their followers about 'why is the Government not taking action!!111'. They'll also soon be dishing out antivirals like smarties to the auld and vulnerable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Binos said: You're aware we are entering another lockdown I don’t want to be that guy, but without punctuation, I can’t tell If that’s a question or a statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 8 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-59768968 FM Questions. To be fair in her exchange with DRoss who was pressing her on the new Omicron data she did say "days". I expect that barring some mental case explosion in the next 10 days or so we will start to see the latest restrictions being rolled back quite quickly, even before the 3wks stated. I’m sure that’ll come as no comfort for the thousands of businesses across the country who have lost their peak trading month. Not to worry lads; slap on a cloth mask, open your doors and your middle of January trade will recover your losses. Keep voting for Nicola and move on! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Forever_blueco said: See if Westminster calls the devolved parliaments bluff and Doesn't actually impose any further restrictions and in 3 weeks hospital admissions are still looking calm and controlled . They surley can’t extend the restrictions beyond that point can they ? How long do they think we are gonna sit up here and look just a few hours down the road at full stadiums , open clubs etc etc No. What it should see though is the diddy assemblies toppled and overthrown for needlessly self-destructing public life for their concern imaging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Snafu said: If your happy to hand the responsibility for your own body and health to the state? Might as well have the rest, they have your mind. That's already the case Unless you think the nhs isn't state run 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, Clown Job said: I think the key point here is that we've got to take decisions based on making sure such judgments are effective. "For example we have a multiple range of options about outside venues, let's for example, take the model Mr Mason has put to me of a variation reflecting stadium size and stadium facility. "I think we lose clarity of messaging, which is a blunt one. "I make no apology for being so blunt, we need to quite simply reduce the degree to which people are interacting. "A total of 500 as a maximum for outdoorevents gives a very clear signal to people in the country that we have to reduce that interaction. "So for example a crowd of 500 at a Rangers game compared to a crowd of 50,000 which would normally be of that order makes a very, very clear significant point that we have to reduce dramatically the level of socialinteraction. As with the majority of their regulations, they are a nonsense with more holes than Aberdeen's defence. Buzzword bingo with "I make no apology" schtick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, Binos said: The vast majority of people in hospital are unvaccinated apparently According to the latest vaccine surveillance report slightly less than half are unvaccinated (if you're counting 2 doses as fully vaccinated). I couldn't be bothered working out the exact percentages (table 9). It doesn't supply information on boosters which I find surprising. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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