Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Scary Bear]

2 minutes ago, Thorongil said:

Great article. Football fans need to consider the Scottish Government and Nicola Stugeon in particular as an enemy from here onwards. 

As a lifelong supporter of independence and a longtime (now erstwhile) member of the SNP, I cannot wait until this absolute charlatan of a First Minister vanishes from public life. 

I suspect that even when she eventually goes she’ll linger on. Like Tony Blair. Just getting more grey, more haggard and more desperate for attention. Their only value being as a marker of time and a reminder of how it changes us all.

[super_carson]

Felt a bit rough last night, couple ibuprofen and a lemsip and an early night.  Feeling better today beyond a cough and a blocked nose, just another week of being locked in the house.  Hurray.  

Just to add the stories folk have shared about family members being bat-shit crazy on both sides of the argument.  I have almost definitely caught this from my brother who isn't vaccinated (not anti-vax per se, just has the view he isn't going to get ill if he gets it so what's the point) and who thinks this whole thing is a carry on that's fuelled by the media.  The other day we both went to visit our old man.  My brother was sitting there with a cough and said it wasn't covid because it was a phlegmy cough and that wasn't covid (apparently).  Two days later, I go for my pre-flight PCR so we can spend Hogmanay with my other half's side of the family in Ireland and my result comes back positive on Christmas morning.  

I call my brother and let him know, he says he doesn't care and he still wants to come round.  I say I don't think it's a good idea given I definitely have the virus, but he admits that he deliberately didn't get tested despite knowing he probably had the virus and still went to visit our Dad and has now, in all probability, passed it on to me.  That means I know spend the remaining time of my holidays in the covid jail and I'm a few hundred quid out of pocket due to flights we can no longer use.  He doesn't seem to see the issue with this and is now acting like we're over-reacting to all of this.  Doesn't understand that while I'm not massively ill just now it means we can't go to visit the in-laws when she was desperately looking forward to it.    Can't help but feel he's been a selfish arsehole here.  

[Granny Danger]

2 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

Are you describing yourself again? 

Cutting-edge political analysis there.

I’d never heard of mcmenemy so did a wee Google search without much joy.  He seems a wee bit shy on his LinkedIn profile “Iain McMenemy started his career in communications at 18 years of age with one of the major UK political parties…”.  Why is he so reluctant to reveal which major political party?

[Trogdor]

2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Cutting-edge political analysis there.

I’d never heard of mcmenemy so did a wee Google search without much joy.  He seems a wee bit shy on his LinkedIn profile “Iain McMenemy started his career in communications at 18 years of age with one of the major UK political parties…”.  Why is he so reluctant to reveal which major political party?

Probably because he doesn't want stalked by you. That'd be my guess.

[Todd_is_God]

[No_Problemo]

1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

Cutting-edge political analysis there.

I’d never heard of mcmenemy so did a wee Google search without much joy.  He seems a wee bit shy on his LinkedIn profile “Iain McMenemy started his career in communications at 18 years of age with one of the major UK political parties…”.  Why is he so reluctant to reveal which major political party?

Yes, working somewhere at the age of 18 means that he is a raving Tory, as that is the only possibly reason that anyone could ever criticise Nicola Sturgeon. 
 

 

[Granny Danger]

1 minute ago, Trogdor said:

Probably because he doesn't want stalked by you. That'd be my guess.

You’re not very bright are you?

[Trogdor]

2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

You’re not very bright are you?

Playground level of discourse from you now. You're not as erudite as you'd like to think you are. 

[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

Yes, working somewhere at the age of 18 means that he is a raving Tory, as that is the only possibly reason that anyone could ever criticise Nicola Sturgeon. 
 

 

[Thorongil]

19 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Sounds like a paranoid crackpot with his own political agenda.  Should fit right in on this thread.

What’s wrong with having a political agenda? Is it only you who’s allowed one?

[Bairnardo]

Just about every one of your posts on here has you on the same side as the rabid right in the Conservative Party.
I’ve already apologised for my political gaff; you’re still reaffirming yours.

Well thats shite, because I have never and will never put an X in the box for a right wing party (or cause, like you did)

However, having a belief that current restrictions are over the top, not neccessary and over the piece, damaging is categorically not a right, or left wing opinion in any way.

That you seek to categorise opinions on covid restrictions going forward as a cut and dried left/right, SNP/Tory choice is a huge minter and betrays exactly what I have been saying about you and your like all along. This is about political capital for you. A game in which you back your team all the way.

Numerous people on this thread have commented how discomforting it is that their views on covid response are aligned with the views of the English Tories, and here you are trying to accuse those folks of actually being tories. Its hinestly pathetic to watch. The only consolation I suppose for you is that you arent the only one. But as we all know, you have to frame it in this way, because you will never actually tell us what you want. Just tell others that they are wrong.

[Thorongil]

I’ve watched Granny Danger for a while on this thread. His contributions are beyond puerile and completely mortifying from any intellectual or moral standpoint. 

A complete liability and embarrassment to independence supporters on this forum.

[No_Problemo]

13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

As a fellow Scottish independence supporter, I genuinely wish you weren’t one as you do far more harm than good spouting nonsense like this. 
 

Calling everyone that disagrees with you Tories is a brain dead move. 

[Guest]

Imagine voting for Brexit then coming on here calling everyone Tory apologists, what a mess.

[Granny Danger]

6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Well thats shite, because I have never and will never put an X in the box for a right wing party (or cause, like you did)

However, having a belief that current restrictions are over the top, not neccessary and over the piece, damaging is categorically not a right, or left wing opinion in any way.

That you seek to categorise opinions on covid restrictions going forward as a cut and dried left/right, SNP/Tory choice is a huge minter and betrays exactly what I have been saying about you and your like all along. This is about political capital for you. A game in which you back your team all the way.

Numerous people on this thread have commented how discomforting it is that their views on covid response are aligned with the views of the English Tories, and here you are trying to accuse those folks of actually being tories. Its hinestly pathetic to watch. The only consolation I suppose for you is that you arent the only one. But as we all know, you have to frame it in this way, because you will never actually tell us what you want. Just tell others that they are wrong.

What I want is normality.  In order to achieve that it means people accepting personal responsibility and realising that their actions do not just affect themselves but affect others.  There’s a few posts today illustrating that there are still many people who see that as an alien concept.

I don’t want to be inoculated but accept it’s necessary, not just for me but for those I come into contact with.  I despise those who don’t AND their apologists.  I don’t want to wear a mask, or be denied entry to the football, but I don’t think those making the rules in Scotland have a wider agenda.

Hope that helps.

PS, it is a political issue and you’re aligning yourself with the rabid right even if you are unwilling to admit it to yourself.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

20 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Jenny harries was talking about masks and social distancing being in place " for some years to come" earlier this year, she's not ready to back to her normal routine

[NotThePars]

All the diehard SNP supporters who dismiss critics of the SNP as Tories had literally nothing to say when the SNP and Tories stood side by side and fucked over renters at the start of the Covid crisis. An actual instance of Scottish nationalists and right wing unionists standing side by side to f**k over the precariat.

[Thorongil]

1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

What I want is normality.  In order to achieve that it means people accepting personal responsibility and realising that their actions do not just affect themselves but affect others.  There’s a few posts today illustrating that there are still many people who see that as an alien concept.

I don’t want to be inoculated but accept it’s necessary, not just for me but for those I come into contact with.  I despise those who don’t AND their apologists.  I don’t want to wear a mask, or be denied entry to the football, but I don’t think those making the rules in Scotland have a wider agenda.

Hope that helps.

PS, it is a political issue and you’re aligning yourself with the rabid right even if you are unwilling to admit it to yourself.

That’s not sane.

[Detournement]

Corbyn and most of the genuinely left wing Labour MPs voted against the passports.

It's not a traditional left Vs right issue. 

[Clown Job]

1 hour ago, Jan Vojáček said:

This is a very good article from Stenhousemuir's chairman.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/scottish-football-has-been-let-down-and-i-now-wonder-if-something-deeper-is-at-work-iain-mcmenemy-3507024

He’s not wrong 

I remember when the SG and Police would praise events such as T in the Park, despite people coming home from that in a body bags while it was full of alcohol, drug abuse and sexual assaults 

Yet at the same time they would be treating fans like thugs and bringing in that awful Offensive Behaviour at Football Act. 

Going to a football game is arguably one of the safest public events you can attend, and when you take in the number of games that are played across the senior leagues alone over a year, the police stats never really did support the treatment supporters received 

I think Celtic alone in a normal season will get over 2 million people  in footfall to the stadium, and the number of arrests are minuscule in comparison (averages something like 300 a season) 

I will still hear c***s argue that you can’t be anywhere near Glasgow City Centre when Celtic and Rangers are playing each other because it gets turned into a war zone or they’ll argue against the reintroduction of alcohol because of a game 40 years ago when football was essentially a bring your own booze event.