Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Loonytoons]

It is most definitely not a jump to think suppressing human immune systems from routine infections would likely lead to longer-term consequences.
 

It's a jump implying that it is the cause though, which is what you did because it fits your agenda.

It might just as likely be an interaction between viruses. Covid has thrown modern science on more than one occasion. Given that it is a novel virus, that's hardly surprising.

Personally, you possibly have a point but at least try to have some sort of objectivity.

ETA your twitter link is irrelevant to my point.

[Lyle Lanley]

8 hours ago, NorthernLights said:

https://www.facebook.com/100064383445918/posts/359556776200434/

The Protect Scotland app has been deactivated but ScotGov want you to keep it installed "just in case"

 

Please keep the Protect Scotland app on your phone in case it's needed in the future.

 

[Honest_Man#1]

7 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Please keep the Protect Scotland app on your phone in case it's needed in the future.

 

Still need it for travel to most places I think anyway? Unless you get a printed copy of your vaccination record I suppose.

[Rugster]

10 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Still need it for travel to most places I think anyway? Unless you get a printed copy of your vaccination record I suppose.

Different app. Vaccine status app is stand alone. Protect Scotland is the check in trace pish. 

[The Moonster]

15 hours ago, jimbaxters said:

So you’re focusing your holiday choice on places with no covid policies in place? Very rational. Sit in a bar eating greasy souvlaki but at least you don’t have to complete a PLF!

Tell me you're a xenophobe without telling me you're a xenophobe. 

[Honest_Man#1]

1 hour ago, Rugster said:

Different app. Vaccine status app is stand alone. Protect Scotland is the check in trace pish. 

I completely forgot that app existed. Can’t believe anyone ever actually downloaded it in the first place to be honest.

[Hedgecutter]

17 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

I completely forgot that app existed. Can’t believe anyone ever actually downloaded it in the first place to be honest.

I use it for offshore work.

However... for whatever reason (probably laziness), the medic always wants to check it in the area of the accomodation block that gets no WiFi reception, which means that it doesn't actually work.  Don't get mobile reception out there, and can't screenshot the app either.

Eta: ah, you meant the track and trace one, didn't you.  Doh.

Edited April 30, 2022 by Hedgecutter

[jimbaxters]

1 hour ago, The Moonster said:

Tell me you're a xenophobe without telling me you're a xenophobe. 

What?

[Honest_Man#1]

8 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

I use it for offshore work.

However... for whatever reason (probably laziness), the medic always wants to check it in the area of the accomodation block that gets no WiFi reception, which means that it doesn't actually work.  Don't get mobile reception out there, and can't screenshot the app either.

Eta: ah, you meant the track and trace one, didn't you.  Doh.

Yeah don’t worry about it, as I said I’d completely forgotten a track and trace app even existed.

[The Moonster]

20 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:

What?

Scoffing at folk who might find Greece an attractive holiday destination and calling one of their national dishes "greasy" gave off more than a whiff of xenophobia. Perhaps you didn't mean it but it didn't come across well. 

[Bairnardo]

I'm not believing there's anyone not taking covid restrictions into account when choosing a holiday destination.

Thats just silly.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Scoffing at folk who might find Greece an attractive holiday destination and calling one of their national dishes "greasy" gave off more than a whiff of xenophobia. Perhaps you didn't mean it but it didn't come across well. 

Greece is one of my favourite holiday destinations, especially Kos.

[Dons_1988]

I absolutely love Italy but if it means a return to mask wearing and various other theatre then I’m happy to wait a year or two to go back and do somewhere else. 

Not sure why that could be considered irrational. 

[Elixir]

11 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

It's a jump implying that it is the cause though, which is what you did because it fits your agenda.

It might just as likely be an interaction between viruses. Covid has thrown modern science on more than one occasion. Given that it is a novel virus, that's hardly surprising.

Personally, you possibly have a point but at least try to have some sort of objectivity.

ETA your twitter link is irrelevant to my point.

'Now looks highly likely to be caused by Adenovirus which has been isolated in >75% of cases.'

Covid is no longer novel: nearly the entire population outside of East Asia and Oceania has been exposed to it; and it has absolutely not 'thrown modern science on more than one occasion': a plethora of vaccines and treatments were cooked up in the space of 12-18 months that have helped render it an utter irrelevance. Well, unless you are a raging hypochondriac or someone with no comprehension of how life worked before March 2020.

Edited April 30, 2022 by Elixir

[Elixir]

Should Gurdasani and the rest of the Diet SAGE psychos not be buying their one-way ticket immediately?

 

[Loonytoons]

Cos THAT isn't a leap at all? [emoji38]

Of course it's a leap. It also might have absolutely nothing to do with either Covid or lockdown. Another leap. That's all we have at the moment until investigated further.
Pointing the finger at one possibility because it suits your agenda is poor stuff tbh. That is what I meant by objectivity.

[Loonytoons]

14 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

That's a bit of a jump blaming lockdown for this. 

It actually might be Covid itself interacting with adenovirus infections that has actually caused the hepatitis.

 

1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Cos THAT isn't a leap at all? 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-variant-may-have-picked-up-piece-common-cold-virus-2021-12-03/

Real shocker that viruses show recombination of their genetic material

[Monkey Tennis]

On 29/04/2022 at 14:17, oaksoft said:

You've made an excellent case for euthanasia right there.

What you've described is no civilised way to treat a human being.

Honestly, f**k all of that. When I decide I'm done, that'll be it.

We get it.  You're spectacularly, desperately independent and self possessed.

It's why you're an arrogant, swaggering walloper.

[Loonytoons]

You are doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing.
You are picking your side and parroting their views.
The difference is, you are presenting yourself as the voice of reason.

Am I feck doing exactly the same.

I've offered other alternatives while saying that the original point possibly had merit and got shot down by you and Elixir.

I'll state right now I think there's a fair chance it is the cause but there are other possibilities and to ignore them to push your agenda is pretty poor form to be honest.

Can you categorically state that it is definitely lockdown that has caused the recent outbreak of hepatitis?
Is it not possible that it has nothing to do with the lockdown itself and there is something else at play.
Is it not possible the there is genomic sharing between Covid and whatever adenovirus seems to be the culprit here, given that RNA viruses are known to actually do this?

[Jacksgranda]

On 19/04/2022 at 14:59, oaksoft said:

I can't find anything which says that this is still a law.

Are they actually trying to claim that they'll deny medical treatment if you turn up without one?

My GP surgery does that - no mask, no entry. I've been there when it's been enforced.