Donathan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Glasgow and Lanarkshire to tier 4, Fife to tier 3, everyone else stays where they are. NAP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) Today is review date so i thought it was worthwhile having a look at how all the Councils are performing in relation to the tier they are in. Gone with the overall change in the last 8 days of released Data, which i believe is roughly the date the tiers were proposed. So started with period 23rd Oct to 29th October figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data. These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days. Start with the tier 3 Councils and move down to Tier 1 My comments in brackets. City Of Edinburgh Tier 3 86.3 to 82.3 Decrease 4.64% (Not good enough to justify promotion to Tier 2) Clackmannanshire Tier 3 131.9 to 89.3 Decrease 32.29% (They must be behaving and another similar week surely promotion to Tier 2) Dundee City Tier 3 176.8 to 121.2 Decrease 31.44% (Same comments as Clack but maybe another 2 weeks needed) East Ayrshire Tier 3 220.5 to 172.9 Decrease 21.59% (Fortunately some people on West side of country are behaving. Stay Tier 3 for now) East Dunbartonshire Tier 3 222.8 to 223.7 Increase 0.40% (So Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) East Lothian Tier 3 97.1 to 68.2 Decrease 29.76% (Maybe originally wrong in Tier 3. Must go to Tier 2 or system a joke) East Renfrewshire Tier 3 226.1 to 236.6 Increase 4.64% (Again Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) Falkirk Tier 3 118.7 to 69.6 Decrease 41.36% (these guys are following the rules. Get them into Tier 2 (Even Marshy !!)) Glasgow City Tier 3 299.5 to 305.9 Increase 2.13% (Weegies not behaving so need to go into Tier 4) Inverclyde Tier 3 72.0 to 165.8 Increase 130.27% (thought they were hard done by being in Tier 3 but was justified and increase is horrible) Midlothian Tier 3 97.3 to 83.3 Decrease 14.38% ( Performing okay but still retain tier 3) North Ayrshire Tier 3 178.1 to 155.1 Decrease 12.91% (Fortunately some people on West side of country are behaving. Stay Tier 3 for now) North Lanarkshire Tier 3 280 to 267.5 Decrease 4.46% (Again Tier 3 not enough effect get them into Tier 4) Renfrewshire Tier 3 231.2 to 285.9 Increase 23.65% (This mob need Tier 5 created. Tier 4 is a must) South Ayrshire Tier 3 151.9 to 184.7 Increase 21.59% (Again Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) South Lanarkshire Tier 3 317.6 to 288.0 Decrease 9.31% (Is this good enough progress for such high numbers. Not convinced) Stirling Tier 3 77.5 to 139.1 Increase 79.48% (Another council who thought they were hard done by. Govt clearly correct) West Dunbartonshire Tier 3 208 to 209.2 Increase 0.57% (Again Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) West lothian Tier 3 181.3 to 180.2 Decrease 0.60% (Not very good but marginal call) Aberdeen City Tier 2, 44.6 to 35.0 Decrease 21.52% (No change but another week and potentially 1st city to Tier 1) Aberdeenshire Tier 2 29.5 to 29.1 Decrease 1.35% (No change but maybe should already be in Tier 1) Angus Tier 2 51.6 to 78.3 Increase 51.75% (I suspect another week like this means Tier 3 looming) Argyll & Bute Tier 2 57.1 to 52.4 Decrease 8.23% (No change) Dumfries & Galloway Tier 2 62.5 to 65.8 Increase 5.28% (No change) Fife Tier 2 81.9 to 106.3 Increase 39.04% (My fellow Neebors need shot or relegated into Tier 3. Might be a 1 week warning) Perth & Kinross Tier 2 75.0 to 96.7 Increase 28.93% (Like Fife need relegated to tier 3 or last warning) Borders Tier 2 39.8 to 64.9 Increase 63.06 (moaned they were in tier 2 but now rightly so) Highland Tier 1 19.9 to 25.9 Increase 30.15% (Big increase but numbers are tiny so will retain Tier 1) Moray Tier 1 14.6 to 19.8 Increase 35.61% (Same as Highland) Na h-Eileanan Siar Tier 1 3.7 to 0 (Basically was 1 case and now none Get them in Tier 0) Orkney Tier 1 9.0 to 4.5 (Basically was 2 cases and now 1. Get them in Tier 0) Shetlands Tier 1 8.7 to 8.7 (Was 2 cases and now 2 cases. Get them in Tier 0) Edited November 10, 2020 by superbigal 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 05/11/2020 at 12:13, Sergeant Wilson said: How many times? It's buroo or b'roo. Ancient and shortened version of bureau as in Employment Bureau, not brew as in beer or tea. Maybe they sign on in a cafe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Thats very interesting - thanks for showing this. Suspect proximity of LA's may have an impact, for example, although Aberdeenshire should perhaps be level 1 we are next to Angus which could justifiably be moved to level 3 Oh, and you were doing so well until the last line......... Shetlands Tier 1 8.7 to 8.7 (Was 2 cases and now 2 cases. Get them in Tier 0) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 05/11/2020 at 13:05, TheScarf said: That's what you get for being educated by the IRA. Lucky he didn't get kneecapped tbqfh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Today is review date so i thought it was worthwhile having a look at how all the Councils are performing in relation to the tier they are in. Gone with the overall change in the last 8 days of released Data, which i believe is roughly the date the tiers were proposed. So started with period 23rdOct to 29th October figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data. These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days. Start with the tier 3 Councils and move down to Tier 1 My comments in brackets. City Of Edinburgh Tier 3 86.3 to 82.3 Decrease 4.64% (Not good enough to justify promotion to Tier 2) Clackmannanshire Tier 3 131.9 to 89.3 Decrease 32.29% (They must be behaving and another similar week surely promotion to Tier 2) Dundee City Tier 3 176.8 to 121.2 Decrease 31.44% (Same comments as Clack but maybe another 2 weeks needed) East Ayrshire Tier 3 220.5 to 172.9 Decrease 21.59% (Fortunately some people on West side of country are behaving. Stay Tier 3 for now) East Dunbartonshire Tier 3 222.8 to 223.7 Increase 0.40% (So Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) East Lothian Tier 3 97.1 to 68.2 Decrease 29.76% Maybe originally wro(ng in Tier 3. Must go to Tier 2 or system a joke) East Renfrewshire Tier 3 226.1 to 236.6 Increase 4.64% (Again Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) Falkirk Tier 3 118.7 to 69.6 Decrease 41.36% (these guys are following the rules. Get them into Tier 2 (Even Marshy !!)) Glasgow City Tier 3 299.5 to 305.9 Increase 2.13% (Weegies not behaving so need to go into Tier 4) Inverclyde Tier 3 72.0 to 165.8 Increase 130.27% (thought they were hard done by being in Tier 3 but was justified and increase is horrible) Midlothian Tier 3 97.3 to 83.3 Decrease 14.38% ( Performing okay but still retain tier 3) North Ayrshire Tier 3 178.1 to 155.1 Decrease 12.91% (Fortunately some people on West side of country are behaving. Stay Tier 3 for now) North Lanarkshire Tier 3 280 to 267.5 Decrease 4.46% (Again Tier 3 not enough effect get them into Tier 4) Renfrewshire Tier 3 231.2 to 285.9 Increase 23.65% (This mob need Tier 5 created. Tier 4 is a must) South Ayrshire Tier 3 151.9 to 184.7 Increase 21.59% (Again Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) South Lanarkshire Tier 3 317.6 to 288.0 Decrease 9.31% (Is this good enough progress for such high numbers. Not convinced) Stirling Tier 3 77.5 to 139.1 Increase 79.48% (Another council who thought they were hard done by. Govt clearly correct) West Dunbartonshire Tier 3 208 to 209.2 Increase 0.57% (Again Tier 3 no effect get them into Tier 4) West lothian Tier 3 181.3 to 180.2 Decrease 0.60% (Not very good but marginal call) Aberdeen City Tier 2, 44.6 to 35.0 Decrease 21.52% (No change but another week and potentially 1st city to Tier 1) Aberdeenshire Tier 2 29.5 to 29.1 Decrease 1.35% (No change but maybe should already be in Tier 1) Angus Tier 2 51.6 to 78.3 Increase 51.75% (I suspect another week like this means Tier 3 looming) Argyll & Bute Tier 2 57.1 to 52.4 Decrease 8.23% (No change) Dumfries & Galloway Tier 2 62.5 to 65.8 Increase 5.28% (No change) Fife Tier 2 81.9 to 106.3 Increase 39.04% (My fellow Neebors need shot or relegated into Tier 3. Might be a 1 week warning) Perth & Kinross Tier 2 75.0 to 96.7 Increase 28.93% (Like Fife need relegated to tier 3 or last warning) Borders Tier 2 39.8 to 64.9 Increase 63.06 (moaned they were in tier 2 but now rightly so) Highland Tier 1 19.9 to 25.9 Increase 30.15% (Big increase but numbers are tiny so will retain Tier 1) Moray Tier 1 14.6 to 19.8 Increase 35.61% (Same as Highland) Na h-Eileanan Siar Tier 1 3.7 to 0 (Basically was 1 case and now none Get them in Tier 0) Orkney Tier 1 9.0 to 4.5 (Basically was 2 cases and now 1. Get them in Tier 0) Shetlands Tier 1 8.7 to 8.7 (Was 2 cases and now 2 cases. Get them in Tier 0) South Ayrshire is one of if not the Retiral / Nursing Home capital of Scotland and with new home outbreaks being reported almost daily in the local press I'm not surprised it's fuelling a rise. Add to that the number of weekend day trippers still descending on Troon and Prestwick and it's not difficult to see how current restrictions will be having little effect. Also still plenty public transport workers travelling to and from Glasgow daily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 05/11/2020 at 16:41, craigkillie said: I'll eat my toast and my jam however I choose. That could well be construed as a substantial two course meal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, superbigal said: City Of Edinburgh Tier 3 86.3 to 82.3 Decrease 4.64% (Not good enough to justify promotion to Tier 2) East Lothian Tier 3 97.1 to 68.2 Decrease 29.76% Maybe originally wro(ng in Tier 3. Must go to Tier 2 or system a joke) West lothian Tier 3 181.3 to 180.2 Decrease 0.60% (Not very good but marginal call) Where did you get these figures? They don't match the ones on Public Health Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RiG said: Where did you get these figures? They don't match the ones on Public Health Scotland. Yes they do. They are from that site. Move the slider and they are cases per 100K in 2 7 day periods I have identified. What do you think is wrong ? So started with period 23rd Oct to 29th October figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data. These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days. Edited November 10, 2020 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, superbigal said: Today is review date so i thought it was worthwhile having a look at how all the Councils are performing in relation to the tier they are in. Gone with the overall change in the last 8 days of released Data, which i believe is roughly the date the tiers were proposed. So started with period 23rd Oct to 29th October figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data. These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days. Falkirk Tier 3 118.7 to 69.6 Decrease 41.36% (these guys are following the rules. Get them into Tier 2 (Even Marshy !!)) Thanks for this - good work. Falkirk is unfortuantely hamstrung on a couple of fronts 1) Location, bordering N Lanarkshire and easy access to both Glasgow and Edinburgh and B) The hospital that serves Stirling (big rises) is in Falkirk. Falkirk, despite the big drop in numbers, doesn't actually have its tier allocation in it's own hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, superbigal said: Yes they do. They are from that site. Move the slider and they are cases per 100K in 2 7 day periods I have identified. What do you think is wrong ? So started with period 23rd Oct to 29th October figures and then how they now appear 31st Oct to Nov 6th the most recent data. These are cases per 100K population in the previous 7 days. Apologies. I read your post too quickly and I was looking at daily figures on the bar chart! ETA: Ah found that slider you were on about and hadn't realised you could play about with so much stuff on that site. Apologies again. Edited November 10, 2020 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I’ll eat my hat if Falkirk gets improved. It’s in the same health board as Stirling which has started doing its best impression of Wuhan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Despite not getting any worse, the fact that cases in North Lanarkshire haven't got much better leaves me feeling we'll be put into tier 4.Where's this bloody vaccine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ron Aldo said: Despite not getting any worse, the fact that cases in North Lanarkshire haven't got much better leaves me feeling we'll be put into tier 4. Where's this bloody vaccine? It's almost as if arbitrary restrictions don't work... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: It's almost as if arbitrary restrictions don't work... Serious question then.... Whats driving numbers down in other places but NL not moving? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCinthearea Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Donathan said: I’ll eat my hat if Falkirk gets improved. It’s in the same health board as Stirling which has started doing its best impression of Wuhan. It's an ill thought out scheme. Central Belt areas will never be able to open bars and restaurants if the surrounding council areas have much higher cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 05/11/2020 at 20:54, Billy Jean King said: A bowl of soup is a starter similar to prawn cocktail or pate not a main. I cannot recall seeing soup listed as a main course on a menu. The owner was correct and most certainly not a moron. Basic common sense. Thankfully business owners are more sensible and intelligent than some of the contrary roasters on PnB. You obviously never had a plate of my mother's soup(s). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCinthearea Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Serious question then.... Whats driving numbers down in other places but NL not moving? NL and Glasgow have a higher than average percentage of pond life compared to other parts of Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: It's almost as if arbitrary restrictions don't work... I think the figures probably do spell out behaviour patterns now. Far more Onion Bhajis in certain places . Simple as. Renfrewshire being the top of the pops in the current movement. Edited November 10, 2020 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said: NL and Glasgow have a higher than average percentage of pond life compared to other parts of Scotland. It's mutated into frogs and newts now? Ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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