Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[MacDuffman]

Vaccination rates.

According to UK.gov figures more than 600,000 vaccinations had been given by 24 Dec. These figures are twice that. Who's lying.

[Gordon EF]

24 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

One of the things I'll miss the most about the pandemic is people condemning others for doing something that they themselves were also doing.  A prime example of this was one of my wifes family who went to SOuth Queensferry for a walk and later regaled my wife on the phone with "The people there clearly aren't taking it seriously, there were cars parked all up and down each side of the road and loads of people out walking!" to which my wife had to gently respond with "but you drove there for a walk and parked the car in exactly the same place and did exactly the same thing..."

I had to seriously catch myself from doing the same thing. Went down to South Queensferry one day in the summer and got absolutely raging at all the c***s crammed into the place. Then quickly realised I was also one of those c***s.

[Gordon EF]

3 minutes ago, MacDuffman said:

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

Vaccination rates.

According to UK.gov figures more than 600,000 vaccinations had been given by 24 Dec. These figures are twice that. Who's lying.

Population of the UK is 66.65m. 600k is 0.9% of the population. 1.18% of the population is 786k. They're not that far off that a few days reporting difference and a bit of rounding doesn't cover it.

[D.A.F.C]

Curfew ? To stop who going where and when ?

France and other countries have done it.
8pm to 6am.

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

France and other countries have done it.
8pm to 6am.

Given that there is currently nothing to leave home for during those hours anyway (other than work which would undoubtably still be allowed), I can't see what difference that would make from Level 4.

[D.A.F.C]

Given that there is currently nothing to leave home for during those hours anyway (other than work which would undoubtably still be allowed), I can't see what difference that would make from Level 4.

Would stop a minority of rule breakers. Or at least limit them. I think its a last resort, no point doing this when schools are still running.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

France and other countries have done it.
8pm to 6am.

Just as well the virus only come out at night.

[D.A.F.C]

Someone asked what measures could be used to increase from tier four. I dont see why using a curfew when other countries have used one is such an outlandish suggestion.
It would stop all the please don't do this nonsense. Truncheon to face is the way.

[renton]

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

Finally have the PHS dashboard updates. 

We aren't in the same meltdown category as England yet.

[Todd_is_God]

11 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

14 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Given that there is currently nothing to leave home for during those hours anyway (other than work which would undoubtably still be allowed), I can't see what difference that would make from Level 4.

Would stop a minority of rule breakers. Or at least limit them. I think its a last resort, no point doing this when schools are still running.

Would it, though?

Far more likely to encourage rulebreakers to stay overnight IMO.

For the Gov to tighten from Level 4 then they really need to know where the greatest spread is happening, and do something there.

I would be surprised if it was in the evening. Schools and work places seem far more likely.

Edited December 29, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[101]

20 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

France and other countries have done it.
8pm to 6am.

I would probably support that on Hogmanay and the 1st.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

5 minutes ago, renton said:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

Finally have the PHS dashboard updates. 

We aren't in the same meltdown category as England yet.

We will be when selfish basturtness of people who were having parties etc at xmas starts to make an impact, new years too.

[renton]

6 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

We will be when selfish basturtness of people who were having parties etc at xmas starts to make an impact, new years too.

Median time to infection is something like 5 days. We'll be seeing some of the effects of Christmas day by now.

[superbigal]

On 21/12/2020 at 15:33, superbigal said:

 

Good Afternoon. 9 Days on from my last review it is worth a complete council update.   Public Health have enjoyed their holidays and updated the figures.

Overall cases per 100K  for 7 days  in period 12th Dec to 18th Dec were 116.1 

Update for 20th Dec to  26th Dec  is up to 134.6 a large rise of 15.93%

Let us just take a look at the councils and see who is to blame.  Clearly what is apparent is this is not a standard Scottish problem.  Huge differences in performance last 9 days. Dundee is now very close to being worst place in Scotland for infection rate.

Aberdeen City 166.6 to 164.9   Decrease 1.02%     Aberdeen stable

Aberdeenshire  112.6 to 131.7   Increase 16.96 %    Not great in the Northern Sticks

City Of Edinburgh  125.0 to 142.5   Increase 14.00%   

Clackmannanshire  147.5  to 71.8  Decrease  51.32%    Behaving again well done.

Dundee City   118.5 to 184.8  Increase 55.94%  Dundee 1st council area clearly in real trouble. City wide.

East Ayrshire  163.9 to 193.4    Increase 18.00%   

East Dunbartonshire 91.1 to 126.1   Increase 38.42%   Another notable rise

East Lothian   172.8 to 112.1   Decrease 35.13%   Behaving again well done.

East Renfrewshire  136.1 to 181.1  Increase 33.06%   Not good

Fife  112.7 to 114.6 Increase 1.68%  Fife stable

Glasgow City  143.9 to 170.0    Increase 25.06%   Not great in our biggest city.

Midlothian   147.1 to 122.2   Decrease 16.93%  Good work

North Ayrshire   205.6 to 154.4  Decrease 24.90%   Excellent work

North Lanarkshire   132.4 to 173.4  Increase 30.97%   Not good

Perth & Kinross 144.1 to 123.7 Decrease 14.16%  Good work

Renfrewshire  127.3 to 188.2  Increase 47.84%     Like Dundee a real problem.

South Ayrshire  119.9 to 101.2  Decrease 15.60%  Good work

South Lanarkshire   124.5 to 171.9  Increase 38.07%   Not good

Stirling  89.2 to 84.9  Decrease 4.82%       For a city very much under control

West Dunbartonshire   125.9 to 124.8 Decrease 0.87%  Stable

West Lothian  99.4 to 84.7  Decrease 14.44%   Good work

Angus 49.1 to 94.7  Increase 92.87%   Like Dundee horrible figures

Falkirk   80.2 to 101.3 Increase 26.30%    

Inverclyde 66.8 to 162   Increase 142.51%   Just how often does it kick off in this area

Argyll & Bute  38.4 to 51.2  Increase 33.33%  Very low numbers

Dumfries & Galloway 36.9 to 77.3 Increase 109.48% Had too much freedom clearly

Highlands   26.4 to 55.4  Increase 109.85%  Low numbers but not a good sign

Moray   24.0 to 55.3  Increase 130.42%  Same comments as Highlands

Scottish  Borders   100.4 to 129.0  Increase 28.49%  Had too much freedom clearly

18 Cases in Shetland from 0 is a concern.   Orkney and Western Isles still free of infections.

 

 

Edited December 29, 2020 by superbigal

[Gus Setsniffer]

15 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Someone asked what measures could be used to increase from tier four. I dont see why using a curfew when other countries have used one is such an outlandish suggestion.
It would stop all the please don't do this nonsense. Truncheon to face is the way.

i've been championing truncheons to the face since day 1, people who don't comply with the advice now and in the spring, are far more worthy of a beating than the miners in the 80's

[Gordon EF]

5 minutes ago, renton said:

Median time to infection is something like 5 days. We'll be seeing some of the effects of Christmas day by now.

Would we see them come through in recorded infections or hospitalizations though? Even if people are becoming infected today, aren't they unlikely to be recorded for a few days at least?

[Gordon EF]

2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So-called essential shops mobbed again today - first time I'd been in them since 23 December (just for a few basics) - almost as busy.

A lot seemed to be stocking up on booze and party food - make of that what you will.

Folk are still allowed to have parties within their own households, to be fair. 

[Gordon EF]

Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said:

2 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

Folk are still allowed to have parties within their own households, to be fair. 

They seem to be feeding and watering the 10,000.

Aye I don't doubt a fair number of them are planning on being total c***s.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Good Afternoon. 9 Days on from my last review it is worth a complete council update.   Public Health have enjoyed their holidays and updated the figures.
Overall cases per 100K  for 7 days  in period 12th Dec to 18th Dec were 116.1 
Update for 20th Dec to  26th Dec  is up to 134.6 a large rise of 15.93%
Let us just take a look at the councils and see who is to blame.  Clearly what is apparent is this is not a standard Scottish problem.  Huge differences in performance last 9 days. Dundee is now very close to being worst place in Scotland for infection rate.
Aberdeen City 166.6 to 164.9   Decrease 1.02%     Aberdeen stable
Aberdeenshire  112.6 to 131.7   Increase 16.96 %    Not great in the Northern Sticks
City Of Edinburgh  125.0 to 142.5   Increase 14.00%   
Clackmannanshire  147.5  to 71.8  Decrease  51.32%    Behaving again well done.
Dundee City   118.5 to 184.8  Increase 55.94%  Dundee 1st council area clearly in real trouble. City wide.
East Ayrshire  163.9 to 193.4    Increase 18.00%   
East Dunbartonshire 91.1 to 126.1   Increase 38.42%   Another notable rise
East Lothian   172.8 to 112.1   Decrease 35.13%   Behaving again well done.
East Renfrewshire  136.1 to 181.1  Increase 33.06%   Not good
Fife  112.7 to 114.6 Increase 1.68%  Fife stable
Glasgow City  143.9 to 170.0    Increase 25.06%   Not great in our biggest city.
Midlothian   147.1 to 122.2   Decrease 16.93%  Good work
North Ayrshire   205.6 to 154.4  Decrease 24.90%   Excellent work
North Lanarkshire   132.4 to 173.4  Increase 30.97%   Not good
Perth & Kinross 144.1 to 123.7 Decrease 14.16%  Good work
Renfrewshire  127.3 to 188.2  Increase 47.84%     Like Dundee a real problem.
South Ayrshire  119.9 to 101.2  Decrease 15.60%  Good work
South Lanarkshire   124.5 to 171.9  Increase 38.07%   Not good
Stirling  89.2 to 84.9  Decrease 4.82%       For a city very much under control
West Dunbartonshire   125.9 to 124.8 Decrease 0.87%  Stable
West Lothian  99.4 to 84.7  Decrease 14.44%   Good work
Angus 49.1 to 94.7  Increase 92.87%   Like Dundee horrible figures
Falkirk   80.2 to 101.3 Increase 26.30%    
Inverclyde 66.8 to 162   Increase 142.51%   Just how often does it kick off in this area
Argyll & Bute  38.4 to 51.2  Increase 33.33%  Very low numbers
Dumfries & Galloway 36.9 to 77.3 Increase 109.48% Had too much freedom clearly
Highlands   26.4 to 55.4  Increase 109.85%  Low numbers but not a good sign
Moray   24.0 to 55.3  Increase 130.42%  Same comments as Highlands
Scottish  Borders   100.4 to 129.0  Increase 28.49%  Had too much freedom clearly
18 Cases in Shetland from 0 is a concern.   Orkney and Western Isles still free of infections.
 
 

Dundee's rises are not city-wide - it's an arc around the northern and western suburbs of the city - north of the Kingsway in particular.

The problem of looking at councils like Dundee is that because they are relatively small then changes tend to be more volatile (both up and down).

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

18 minutes ago, renton said:

Median time to infection is something like 5 days. We'll be seeing some of the effects of Christmas day by now.

Yes but i cant help but think lots of people wont get tested until it comes to getting time off work?