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22 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
29 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:
What does he mean by the current level of restrictions? What else is there to be restricted?

I took it to mean they were lax enough to make inroads against new variants very slow. I think it's a fairly major hint nothing will change at next week's review. Progress is "too slow" and the fact ICU admissions are still rising us very concerning.

You sure about that?

I heard them saying that people who have been in ICU for over 28 days has gone up by 2 but didn't hear that ICU cases are going up

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34 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
36 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
Except the vast majority of fat people choose to live the way they do, otherwise they would do something about it.
The lack of societal pressure / desire to not offend them enables them to continue as is.
There is a very clear line between having a dig / mocking people for things they can't help, and doing the same to those who could help themselves, but either see it as perfectly acceptable to be fat, or can't be arsed to do anything about it.

So why the outrage when Devi says "feeling depressed, go for a walk" it's the exact same approach. Basically snap out it.

Walking won't lift covid restdictions, though, in the same way that ordering your third dominos of the week won't make you any less fat.

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You sure about that?
I heard them saying that people who have been in ICU for over 28 days has gone up by 2 but didn't hear that ICU cases are going up
The total number of people admitted to icu was about 20 more this week than last I believe he said.
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35 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

When you decide to vote Tory, you take on a lot of the attitudes of said party. The selfishness, the lack of empathy or understanding, the victim blaming.

Except, I've never voted Tory.

What I said, over the course of the day, was that I'd be looking to vote for the party that was looking to lift restrictions ASAP.

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When you decide to vote Tory, you take on a lot of the attitudes of said party. The selfishness, the lack of empathy or understanding, the victim blaming.


So because people are saying some obese people need to start taking accountability for their current weight then that means they are a tory. Brilliant.

A lot of obese people do not need empathy. They need to be told that they are doing damage to themselves and the NHS. Why is this a selfish view to take?
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29 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

Aye that’s what started off this obesity debate tangent, and it’s just farcical. I’m fed up of being told that anyone can become seriously ill from it when statistically - if you’re in any reasonable shape whatsoever - you’re as likely being hit by a bus.

Driven by a fatty from Falkirk.

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You sure about that?
I heard them saying that people who have been in ICU for over 28 days has gone up by 2 but didn't hear that ICU cases are going up

ICU is up by 6 on yesterday.

There are always going to be blips, and patients in hospital is still going the right way (down 27) , so I think this is probably just the lag effect.
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1 minute ago, MP_MFC said:
5 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:
You sure about that?
I heard them saying that people who have been in ICU for over 28 days has gone up by 2 but didn't hear that ICU cases are going up

The total number of people admitted to icu was about 20 more this week than last I believe he said.

I didn't see the briefing so this may have been covered, but is it possible that people are just spending longer in hospital in general, and therefore taking longer to need to go to ICU than before?

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So because people are saying some obese people need to start taking accountability for their current weight then that means they are a tory. Brilliant.

A lot of obese people do not need empathy. They need to be told that they are doing damage to themselves and the NHS. Why is this a selfish view to take?

If you’ve said that you are going to vote Tory, and then spout this type of judgemental shite, then the correlation is clear to see.
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Except, I've never voted Tory.
What I said, over the course of the day, was that I'd be looking to vote for the party that was looking to lift restrictions ASAP.

And then you came down to the conclusion that it would be the Tories. Very telling.
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3 minutes ago, Aufc said:

So because people are saying some obese people need to start taking accountability for their current weight then that means they are a tory. Brilliant.

 

Anyone who doesn't unquenchingly guzzle Kool-Aid from the SNP cup is a Tory, apparantly.

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3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

I am the only one who would quite enjoy an orgy with Devi and Leanne Crichton and Anne Lundin?

Yes.

Going off topic for a second, the BBC have just reported that the UK's R rating has fallen below 1 for the first time since July, and is now between 0.7 and 0.9.

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I hear bullying people is a great way to build confidence and willpower in people. Keep up the good work m8.


Clearly some of the language being used is a wind up. However, why shouldnt people be able to be up front and honest with obese people? They are basically killing themselves through food.
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Just now, Wee Bully said:

And then you came down to the conclusion that it would be the Tories. Very telling.

I didn't though. I said if that happened to be them, then so be it.

If it's Labour, the Lib Dems or the SNP then they'd get my vote too.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp tbh.

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7 minutes ago, MP_MFC said:
11 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:
You sure about that?
I heard them saying that people who have been in ICU for over 28 days has gone up by 2 but didn't hear that ICU cases are going up

The total number of people admitted to icu was about 20 more this week than last I believe he said.

 

4 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:


ICU is up by 6 on yesterday.

There are always going to be blips, and patients in hospital is still going the right way (down 27) , so I think this is probably just the lag effect.

Fair enough.

I'd like to see the ICU case numbers of those who were given vaccines 2+ weeks ago. In these in-between times, that is what we really should be gauging and I'm surprised we've not actually been all over trying to get that data as it would give a clearer and unequivocal picture of what effect the vaccines are having.

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