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I see Scot Gov seem to be doubling down on social distancing ‘continuing to be an important tool in keeping transmission down’ and ‘part of the collective civic duty we owe each other’.

Are we going to see an artificial reopening in August where places like football stadiums are technically allowed unlimited numbers but are in fact heavily restricted by social distancing requirements?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dont-hold-us-back-hospitality-firms-tell-sturgeon-rf76m26kb

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2 hours ago, Left Back said:

Do we have negative interest rates at the moment?  (If we do I’ve missed it).  What happens when interest rates go up and to government has to roll the debt over?  It becomes more expensive and reduces the amount available for public sector spending.  Inflation will erode the value of the debt over time but with an inflation target of 2% that means an extremely long time.  The government wants to open up the economy not just to prevent it having to borrow extreme sums of money but also to increase tax income so it can decrease the debt.  If it doesn’t it’s future generations that pay the bill of reduced public services, higher taxes etc.

It’s naive to think there isn’t a bill for all this.  It might not be in 5 years or 10 years (how household finances operate) but there is a bill.  They can’t keep borrowing eye-watering sums of money indefinitely.

With every crises, comes an opportunity. 

Western economies already on the downward pre Covid due to failed government policies and QE the order of the day. 

Covid a good cover of shifting blame and YES Joe public WILL pay the price. 

A surge in unemployment when furlough ends and getting rid of the dead wood hiding in WFH. Big opportunity for employers too in shaving their overhead. 

Then watch interest rates soar through next year. The Fed have ran out of paper they've printed that much. Dollar on the way out and the next crash on the way in, but no worries the big Yank PEI's will save (rape) us. NHS England looking ripe for a scalping. Just as well wee Nicola is in charge up here. 

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Heard about a guy who was badly injured in a car accident the other day, and he was wearing a seatbelt! I mean what's the fucking point, they're useless. :1eye

Yet you aren't campaigning to remove cars from the roads?  Shameful.

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8 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

I see Scot Gov seem to be doubling down on social distancing ‘continuing to be an important tool in keeping transmission down’ and ‘part of the collective civic duty we owe each other’.

Are we going to see an artificial reopening in August where places like football stadiums are technically allowed unlimited numbers but are in fact heavily restricted by social distancing requirements?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dont-hold-us-back-hospitality-firms-tell-sturgeon-rf76m26kb

Yes

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9776675/Hospital-waiting-lists-rocketing-13MILLION-warns-Savid-Javid.html

"Hospital waiting lists are rocketing towards 13MILLION, warns Savid Javid as he says 'very British' attitude of not wishing to overburden NHS during Covid pandemic is leaving millions untreated and undiagnosed" 

The penny appears to have dropped with Javid, but will he do anything about it? Will he have the resources to do anything about it. 

The article goes on...... 

"Earlier, Professor Helen Stokes-Lampard, chairwoman of the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges, said deaths were beginning to rise again too.

She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: 'We've only just heard in this bulletin about the rising numbers of cases, the rising numbers of people requiring hospital treatment, in intensive care and sadly deaths are starting to rise again, too.

'There seems to be a misapprehension that life will return to normal from then (July 19), and that we can throw away all the precautions, and frankly, that would be dangerous.'

Well, wtf does she know? She needs to get on P&B. 

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3 hours ago, craigkillie said:


You have been one of the most miserable individuals on this thread since day one, so at least you're staying on brand.

Aye cause life's fucking great now isn't it? 

 

2 hours ago, oaksoft said:

Maybe but his analysis of what she has said is correct for the time being.

Sturgeon very clearly spent the last week laying the groundwork for level 0.5 for 19th July with social distancing measures still in place come 9th August.

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5 hours ago, oaksoft said:

At limiting the spread of the virus?

Yes I'm persuaded that both lockdown and social distancing have helped there.

But we have vaccines now so it's time to remove those restrictions.

The only restriction I have ever said was useless is masks and the claim that they work in themselves.

 

So why were you responding to my post which had nothing to do with that?  

Start an argument in an empty house you.

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The BBC cutting from their Breakfast presenters sitting 2m apart on the sofa, to behind-the-scenes footage of Lineker et al. celebrating England’s opener with BBC branding in full view, was certainly an interesting editorial choice. 

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No idea about the timings but my prediction is he'll make an announcement that is startlingly brief but couched in quite optimistic terms, won't engage with the questions he is asked, then the documentation supporting all of this (be it advice, new legislation, whatever) will be published and reveal that in actual fact "freedom day" is quite a bit less free than they had all hoped for.

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35 minutes ago, Jamie_Beatson said:

No idea about the timings but my prediction is he'll make an announcement that is startlingly brief but couched in quite optimistic terms, won't engage with the questions he is asked, then the documentation supporting all of this (be it advice, new legislation, whatever) will be published and reveal that in actual fact "freedom day" is quite a bit less free than they had all hoped for.

And then backtrack in a week when the Wembley lag kicks in.

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