Detournement Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Michael W said: Utterly appalling lies on display here. Just fucking stop. Never before had it been easier to disprove falsehoods. With Covid/due to Covid distinction being exploited here. Given that infection rates have been higher than last year this might well be true of people in hospital who have tested positive recently. Edited November 8, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I've not seen the dentist in a while. You'd think with the Hard Winter coming in he'd be more prominent. Wonder why. Maybe he's finally taking a step back to do his actual job and do a few scale and polishes, and fill in some chubby weans teeth? 1 minute ago, Michael W said: Utterly appalling lies on display here. Just fucking stop. Never before had it been easier to disprove falsehoods. Both iNews and the Guardian are basically the press wing of 'independent SAGE' at this point. They've long since been in the gutter. Meanwhile, the NHS Providers Chief was saying yesterday that the NHS are actually acknowledging that we're now moving from the pandemic phase to the endemic phase, with concerns over the impact of restrictive measures on people's lives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Elixir said: Both iNews and the Guardian are basically the press wing of 'independent SAGE' at this point. They've long since been in the gutter. Meanwhile, the NHS Providers Chief was saying yesterday that the NHS are actually acknowledging that we're now moving from the pandemic phase to the endemic phase, with concerns over the impact of restrictive measures on people's lives. The quote is a direct one from the Chief Executive of NHS England. She has either lied here and the journalist published it with no independent verification, or the journalist has misquoted her out of context. Either way, a severe reprimand should be dished out. Someone in the comments has said that they've taken the lowest number of hospitalisations from Sept 2020 and multiplied it by 14. At any rate, the article is unmitigated tripe and The i is publishing false information which risks carrying a significant degree of harm. Some may for example see the headline and decide the vaccines don't work, or start calling for societal restrictions based on what are false statistics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael W said: Utterly appalling lies on display here. Just fucking stop. Never before has it been easier to disprove falsehoods. The article has now been qualified as per the below. It includes an utterly worthless historical comparison and the misleading headline is still there. NHS England later clarified that Ms Pritchard misspoke and was referring to August 2021 compared with August 2020, the latest figures available. In August last year, 1,629 Covid positive patients were admitted to hospital compared to 22,877 in the same month in 2021. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Michael W said: Anyone able to recall how many people were within the JCVI priority groups for vaccination and therefore how far away we might be?. About 30 million people are eligible for boosters so we're about a quarter of the way there if the figures in this article are correct. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59179851 I would question one of the figures though. I though we'd administered about 10 million boosters so we'd be a third of the way there. Maybe the 7 million mentioned in the article is England only but I can't believe the rest of the UK has administered 40+% of what England has done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 48 minutes ago, Left Back said: About 30 million people are eligible for boosters so we're about a quarter of the way there if the figures in this article are correct. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59179851 I would question one of the figures though. I though we'd administered about 10 million boosters so we'd be a third of the way there. Maybe the 7 million mentioned in the article is England only but I can't believe the rest of the UK has administered 40+% of what England has done. I'd imagine there will be lots of over 50's who can't get one for at least a month yet ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Killed the Daily Infection Summary as nothing really happening. So here is a weekly update. Total Cases Scotland 7 days 30th October to 5th November were 17,957 to 18,767 up 4.51%, Positivity was 9.0% now 8.9%. Cases per 100K were 328.5 now 343.3 Although we have moved up a little from the flatline, the discrepancies in different council areas are vastly different. Dundee & Edinburgh huge decreases and now down in 26th & 30th places. Glasgow still holding despite COP26 in 31st place. On the flip side some really high rises in the more "rural" areas. Auchinleck now pushing up the pyramid in more ways than semi-pro football. Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update : UK Average 435.3 to 402.1 down 7.58%, England 435.8 to 399.7 down 8.28%, Wales 600.0 to 556.2 down 7.3%, Northern Ireland 450.8 to 428.8 down 4.88% Cases in Europe in terms of increase in last week. Greece 66%, Austria 63%, Czech 59%, Ireland 51%, Poland 51%, Hungary 47%, Switzerland 47%, Norway 42%, Netherlands39%, Germany 31% all over 30% up. Scotland peaks in wave 4 at 817.1 for 1st Sep to 7th Sep, (UK was 392.1), Cases that day were 44,663 and positivity 12.5% Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8% Scotland peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Council progress in last week as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview Western Isles 301.9 to 630.2 Up over 100% but only 167 active cases Orkney Islands 473.2 to 598.2 Up over 25% but only 134 active cases Clackmannanshire 633.7 to 563.5 East Ayrshire 377.5 to 518.1 Up over 37% Auchinleck 1637 per 100K Angus 360.9 to 468.8 Up 30% Stirling 382.7 to 437.9 Dumfries & Galloway 293.3 to 437.0 Up nearly 50% Scottish Borders 315.9 to 429.5 Up well over 35% Inverclyde 268.6 to 426.9 Up nearly 60% Perth & Kinross 282.4 to 395.6 Up over 40% Falkirk 330.1 to 391.8 Highlands 305.0 to 389.1 Up over 27% Argyll & Bute 364.0 to 388.6 West Lothian 415.1 to 382.4 North Lanarkshire 400.4 to 379.9 Moray 319.7 to 370.9 Fife 412.2 to 368.1 Down over 10% Aberdeenshire 459.4 to 364.7 Down over 20% South Lanarkshire 320.7 to 361.3 Aberdeen City 333.5 to 347.5 BELOW AVERAGE North Ayrshire 349.3 to 338.2 East Dunbartonshire 323.7 to 335.6 South Ayrshire 266.6 to 333.5 Up over 25% West Dunbartonshire 324.9 to 324.9 East Lothian 329.9 to 320.7 Dundee City 369.6 to 313.8 Down over 15% Midlothian 295.2 to 290.9 East Renfrewshire 262.3 to 285.2 Renfrewshire 281.0 to 262.0 City Of Edinburgh 278.4 to 228.2 Down over 18% Glasgow City 218.7 to 220.6 Shetland Islands 131.2 to 161.8 Edited November 8, 2021 by superbigal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Load of shite. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Few masks in Haarlem so far apart from bus from airport, none from staff or customers at the bar I'm in, but had to show Vax passport before they'd serve me, which was scanned. Seems our integration into the EU pass has gone live. Last week I would have needed a daily LFT, officially at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Places like Germany and the Netherlands mustn't be going far enough with their mask enforcement and vaccine passport societies! Meanwhile, England has the lowest R rate of any country in Europe, oafttttt. Edited November 8, 2021 by Elixir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Damn those reckless toarrrrrries with their inhumane public health experiments 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just spent weekend in London. Have to say I was surprised by the numbers of people wearing a mask. Probably about 50% on public transport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Is this right? Proof of vaccination seems a bit pointless then. . Kind of thought the vaccines reduced transmission a bit. Who knows. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GTee said: Is this right? Proof of vaccination seems a bit pointless then. . Kind of thought the vaccines reduced transmission a bit. Who knows. It's almost certainly true. But... The words "can" and "could" have, over the last 20 months, been used disgracefully to allow "experts" and "MSM" to push whatever story ot narrative they want, regardless of likelihood. For example, I can become a billionaire and could win the EuroMillions tomorrow. Neither are likely, but the statement would be just as true regardless. Edited November 9, 2021 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: The words "can" and "could" have, over the last 20 months, been used disgracefully to allow "experts" and "MSM" to push whatever story ot narrative they want, regardless of likelihood. For example, I can become a billionaire and could win the EuroMillions tomorrow. Neither are likely, but the statement would be just as true regardless. Aye. It just seems like anyone can catch it and pass it on regardless of vaccine status. So proof of vaccination isn't helping all that much.. I don't think. Maybe a wee bit.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GTee said: Aye. It just seems like anyone can catch it and pass it on regardless of vaccine status. So proof of vaccination isn't helping all that much.. I don't think. Maybe a wee bit.. That's not quite the point I was trying to make, but I wholeheartedly agree RE: vaccine passports. They, like masks, have been championed as a big reason cases across Europe were relatively low. Recent data, however, suggests that probably isn't true, and their impact severely overestimated. Confirmation bias has been rife where covid restrictions / measures are concerned. Nonsense arguments were used (and accepted) to dismiss the anomaly of Sweden, however once the figures in England started plummeting recently you could sense the panic amongst the 'experts' - the trend in England casts serious doubt on the effectiveness of masks and passports and threatens to blow apart any remaining credibility they have. Edited November 9, 2021 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/business/biden-vaccine-mandate-osha.html 84 million American workers are going to be covered by a vaccine mandate from the 4th of January. Just a conspiracy theory.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 New Zealand street gangs urge people to take vaccine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/03/new-zealand-vaccines-gang-leaders-unite-covid-shots?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, ICTChris said: New Zealand street gangs urge people to take vaccine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/03/new-zealand-vaccines-gang-leaders-unite-covid-shots?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Lockdown is obviously hurting their bottom line on drugs and prostitution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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