Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Absolutely nothing. Nothing needs to be done. A provision of financial support for businesses that need to close due to staff being off or self isolate with covid would be plenty at this point.

That might have been a good approach a couple of weeks ago before she torched an industry by going full nuclear panic.  Now someone (i.e. the taxpayer) has to bale those industries out because she wants to be seen to care more.

[Elixir]

It speaks volumes that nobody has the balls to simply say 'I'm afraid we must ride this out'.

[Dawson Park Boy]

These exchanges between Nelson and Medley are unbelievable.

For SAGE to say that they only model worst case scenarios as they are the only scenarios that will need Government action is beyond belief.

Worse still that governments don’t seem to realise what’s going on is just mind blowing.

I need a scientific view on this.

Oaksoft, where are you?

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

Just now, djchapsticks said:

Absolutely nothing. Nothing needs to be done. A provision of financial support for businesses that need to close due to staff being off or self isolate with covid would be plenty at this point.

OK, so full Bolsanaro then. 

Is it, at the very least, possible to understand that this is a virtually impossible position for Sturgeon to take, in the face of the medical advice that she's obviously being given ?

Even Johnson, a man who is inherently callous and ignorant to others suffering, won't go full Bolsonaro. 

As much as all of us desperately want life to be like it was 2 years ago, there's simply no way that a responsible leader (I don't include Johnson in this) of any 1st world country will do anything other than act cautiously. 

I hate it, like you and others do, but that's just the reality of the situation. 

 

 

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, jimmy boo said:

Yep you keep spouting your shite on here 24/7 and your fellow simpletons will lap it up

Or alternatively you could get a life?

What are you babbling about?

I'd love to get on with my life and in particular get travelling again. I wonder what could possibly be preventing that from happening?

[TheScarf]

Why does Sturgeon have to ‘do something’ when hospital numbers are dropping?

[Detournement]

4 minutes ago, Elixir said:

It speaks volumes that nobody has the balls to simply say 'I'm afraid we must ride this out'.

WEF don't take prisoners m8

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

OK, so full Bolsanaro then.

Is it, at the very least, possible to understand that this is a virtually impossible position for Sturgeon to take, in the face of the medical advice that she's obviously being given ?

Even Johnson, a man who is inherently callous and ignorant to others suffering, won't go full Bolsonaro.

As much as all of us desperately want life to be like it was 2 years ago, there's simply no way that a responsible leader (I don't include Johnson in this) of any 1st world country will do anything other than act cautiously.

I hate it, like you and others do, but that's just the reality of the situation.

Do you think the 'first world' is better than the 'third world'?

[Big Fifer]

1 minute ago, Bob Mahelp said:

OK, so full Bolsanaro then. 

Is it, at the very least, possible to understand that this is a virtually impossible position for Sturgeon to take, in the face of the medical advice that she's obviously being given ?

Even Johnson, a man who is inherently callous and ignorant to others suffering, won't go full Bolsonaro. 

As much as all of us desperately want life to be like it was 2 years ago, there's simply no way that a responsible leader (I don't include Johnson in this) of any 1st world country will do anything other than act cautiously. 

I hate it, like you and others do, but that's just the reality of the situation. 

 

 

You are aware that something like 90% of people in this country are vaccinated, 95% with antibodies and we're getting boostered out our nuts eh? How you can compare that to "Bolsanaro" is...interesting. 

[Rugster]

3 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

OK, so full Bolsanaro then. 

Is it, at the very least, possible to understand that this is a virtually impossible position for Sturgeon to take, in the face of the medical advice that she's obviously being given ?

Even Johnson, a man who is inherently callous and ignorant to others suffering, won't go full Bolsonaro. 

As much as all of us desperately want life to be like it was 2 years ago, there's simply no way that a responsible leader (I don't include Johnson in this) of any 1st world country will do anything other than act cautiously. 

I hate it, like you and others do, but that's just the reality of the situation. 

 

 

I did begin to reply properly to this, but gave up. I’ll just reply with get to f**k, you looney.  

[Elixir]

4 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Why does Sturgeon have to ‘do something’ when hospital numbers are dropping?

EXCUSE ME, ARE YOU JAIR BOLSONARO?

[djchapsticks]

Just now, Bob Mahelp said:

OK, so full Bolsanaro then. 

Is it, at the very least, possible to understand that this is a virtually impossible position for Sturgeon to take, in the face of the medical advice that she's obviously being given ?

Even Johnson, a man who is inherently callous and ignorant to others suffering, won't go full Bolsonaro. 

As much as all of us desperately want life to be like it was 2 years ago, there's simply no way that a responsible leader (I don't include Johnson in this) of any 1st world country will do anything other than act cautiously. 

I hate it, like you and others do, but that's just the reality of the situation. 

 

 

No, not 'full Bolsonaro' as we are not currently living in a 'full Bolsonaro' situation right now in Scotland you madman.

By saying 'absolutely nothing' I clearly mean nothing away from where we are right now.

Also, who is going on medical advice? Certainly not the SG or UK govt. All advisement decisions are being made based on modelling advice currently. Any medical advice currently,(mainly from South Africa so far) on the go is saying the virus is behaving contrary to the modelling data they are basing decisions on.

[anotherchance]

5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

OK, so full Bolsanaro then. 

Is it, at the very least, possible to understand that this is a virtually impossible position for Sturgeon to take, in the face of the medical advice that she's obviously being given ?

Even Johnson, a man who is inherently callous and ignorant to others suffering, won't go full Bolsonaro. 

As much as all of us desperately want life to be like it was 2 years ago, there's simply no way that a responsible leader (I don't include Johnson in this) of any 1st world country will do anything other than act cautiously. 

I hate it, like you and others do, but that's just the reality of the situation. 

 

 

Very easy to demand caution when that ultimately means it’s somebody else’s ability to put food on the table at stake.

Misplaced caution will kill people.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

Just now, Big Fifer said:

You are aware that something like 90% of people in this country are vaccinated, 95% with antibodies and we're getting boostered out our nuts eh? How you can compare that to "Bolsanaro" is...interesting. 

I say it's full Bolsonaro, because he was the leader who ignored medical advice with disastrous consequences. 

I ask the question again, what is Sturgeon meant to do, given the advice that she....and pretty much every leader of a 1st world country...is being given ? 

Is she meant to toss a coin, cross her fingers, and hope that all the medical advice is wrong ? Should she follow the self-appointed experts on social media, or should she act (temporarily) on the side of caution ? 

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

3 minutes ago, Rugster said:

I did begin to reply properly to this, but gave up. I’ll just reply with get to f**k, you looney.  

More childish, puce faced abuse because you see an opinion that differs from your own. Try and act like an adult.

 

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

No, not 'full Bolsonaro' as we are not currently living in a 'full Bolsonaro' situation right now in Scotland you madman.

By saying 'absolutely nothing' I clearly mean nothing away from where we are right now.

Also, who is going on medical advice? Certainly not the SG or UK govt. All advisement decisions are being made based on modelling advice currently. Any medical advice currently,(mainly from South Africa so far) on the go is saying the virus is behaving contrary to the modelling data they are basing decisions on.

 

3 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

Very easy to demand caution when that ultimately means it’s somebody else’s ability to put food on the table at stake.

Misplaced caution will kill people.

All easy to say from the safety on an internet forum, where there's absolutely no responsibility involved. 

 

[djchapsticks]

10 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

These exchanges between Nelson and Medley are unbelievable.

For SAGE to say that they only model worst case scenarios as they are the only scenarios that will need Government action is beyond belief.

Worse still that governments don’t seem to realise what’s going on is just mind blowing.

I need a scientific view on this.

Oaksoft, where are you?

They are pretty disturbing. 

The whole 'policy makers dictate what we model on' thing has me thinking of the big US tobacco companies back in the 50s and 60s pulling in medical professionals to publicly extol the virtues of smoking to the masses.

[TheScarf]

Not sure you need to take advice on how to read a graph or table that shows the number of people in hospital because of covid is dropping and so the NHS is under less and less stress as the days pass.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

Just now, TheScarf said:

Not sure you need to take advice on how to read a graph or table that shows the number of people in hospital because of covid is dropping and so the NHS is under less and less stress as the days pass.

Let's hope that continues, absolutely. 

 

 

[Thorongil]

15 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Why does Sturgeon have to ‘do something’ when hospital numbers are dropping?

This is being routinely ignored by the government and their media.