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Glad to see the media beginning to turn from "blitz spirit" nonsense to actually highlighting the state of the conditions the NHS are still having to work in and the empty testing centres.

Things could turn quite nasty with this if Bojo and pals dont get it sorted out.

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1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

Glad to see the media beginning to turn from "blitz spirit" nonsense to actually highlighting the state of the conditions the NHS are still having to work in and the empty testing centres.

Things could turn quite nasty with this if Bojo and pals dont get it sorted out.

Johnson's cabinet stooges are really struggling now that they can't just pull out the same 'stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives' answer to every single question.

Johnson will be desperate to continue to dodge the 5pm press conferences once he is released from his quarantine.

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8 minutes ago, throbber said:

So what? 5 singers of novelty songs die from flu every year and the all of the Fast Food Rockers were wiped out by e-coli.

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28 minutes ago, Snafu said:

There won't be enough of the right masks to go round and for the population to use them properly.

They will be made and given to every household.

China has a massive producing line and stock ready to sell. 

ETA A new study in Massachusetts saying that coughs can travel up to 6m & sneezes 8m. 

How they never new that before f**k knows. 

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Cheltenham was Tuesday to Friday not the weekend and all uk and European football went ahead that week too as Hearts fans will lament. So Cheltenham was no more likely to be a hotspot than any football match that week. It's becoming an urban myth it went ahead after all other sport was stopped !

Interesting that the actions of these bams are coming back to bite them, including Camila PB's ex husband who now has the corona virus which she believes he caught it at the Cheltenham Festival, why did the Cheltenham Festive go ahead while nearly every other major sporting event that weekend was cancelled?
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Apparently only 2000 tests have been done on front line staff. That is clearly policy to avoid absence.

To me it looks like herd immunity has always been the plan but the government had to pretend it's not due to the ridiculous reaction to the initial announcement. Herd immunity is the only plan with a viable exit strategy and the only one which takes into account that poorer countries will likely never eradicate this so getting down to zero infections domestically doesn't mean much.

The Guardian today have an article up about places to visit when lock down is over and the first one is Greece and the second one is fucking Christchurch! The idea that international travel is going to spring back into action is ridiculous. No one is going to be going on a foreign holiday for years.

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Just now, Billy Jean King said:

Cheltenham was Tuesday to Friday not the weekend and all uk and European football went ahead that week too as Hearts fans will lament. So Cheltenham was no more likely to be a hotspot than any football match that week. It's becoming an urban myth it went ahead after all other sport was stopped !

Crowds at Cheltenham are bigger, in closer contact, last far longer and move in ways which are more likely to spread the virus than football crowds. 

 

 

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Johnson's cabinet stooges are really struggling now that they can't just pull out the same 'stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives' answer to every single question.
Johnson will be desperate to continue to dodge the 5pm press conferences once he is released from his quarantine.
Patience with our current situation will run out quickly, as is the way with patience these days, there wont be much of it. The overriding narrative will be that we have done our bit, but you still havent sorted it, and degenerating from there.


This period of waiting, where there arent really much more measures they can take, and the results wont be seen for another week (sick of the rolling 2 week statements so I am calling it a week) was always going to be where the media focus shifted and the government faced real scrutiny. Glad to see that of course, but cant help feeling that it will come hand in hand with the media acting in a predictably irresponsible manner.
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I was there Tuesday and Wednesday as I do every year. The proximity of people is way less than sitting at a football match bar pinch points within what is a vast site. A lot of the inside facilities were shut too. Twats like Parker-Bowles will have been holed up in a hospitality box which I would agree probably put them at slightly higher risk. There were as many people at Annfield than at Cheltenham on the Wednesday yet it never gets mentioned !

Crowds at Cheltenham are bigger, in closer contact, last far longer and move in ways which are more likely to spread the virus than football crowds. 
 
 
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6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

I was there Tuesday and Wednesday as I do every year. The proximity of people is way less than sitting at a football match bar pinch points within what is a vast site. A lot of the inside facilities were shut too. Twats like Parker-Bowles will have been holed up in a hospitality box which I would agree probably put them at slightly higher risk. There were as many people at Annfield than at Cheltenham on the Wednesday yet it never gets mentioned !

At football you are in proximity to a few hundred people sitting around you plus exiting and entering is one way traffic. 

People move about all day at Cheltenham to watch races, bet, eat, drink and use toilets. There are far more contacts. 

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27 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Glad to see the media beginning to turn from "blitz spirit" nonsense to actually highlighting the state of the conditions the NHS are still having to work in and the empty testing centres.

Things could turn quite nasty with this if Bojo and pals dont get it sorted out.

More than 500 folk in the UK died yesterday. I think it's already "quite nasty".

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There is no mass testing the government are lying about all kinds of stuff.

 There's a chemical shortage. Chemical companies "erm no there isn't, you can have anything you neeed".

Oh there's not enough labs. Private lab owners "please use our labs we're desperate to help"

Then there is the ventilator fiasco, government line is they can't get any and Dyson has been commissioned to build something they have never built before which might be ready at some point in the future.

Ventilator manufacturers " we've got loads but government haven't even phoned us"

There is only so long you can keep a country on "lockdown" while actually doing f**k all to tackle the problem.

People will just say f**k this and we'll be back to square one. 

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18 minutes ago, SlipperyP said:

They will be made and given to every household.

China has a massive producing line and stock ready to sell. 

ETA A new study in Massachusetts saying that coughs can travel up to 6m & sneezes 8m. 

How they never new that before f**k knows. 

Never factored in wind assistance.

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