Shadwell Dog Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yoss said: If we were second we'd be unaffected either way, so I can't see any particular reason we'd be against it. I don't believe we'd be voting for it if we were in Partick's position though, no, and I would hope he's not going to pretend we would. How would you be unaffected? You wouldnt be getting promotion for starters though your only a point behind with 8 games to go including a final game at starks park and a huge advantage in goal difference if you switch the situation completely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Queen of the South voting to end as is, no shock there while they're sitting in 9th place. http://www.qosfc.com/news-4994 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: How would you be unaffected? You wouldnt be getting promotion for starters though your only a point behind with 8 games to go including a final game at starks park and a huge advantage in goal difference if you switch the situation completely. We wouldn't be getting promoted either way. We'd be second and would not be getting the chance to improve on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Yoss said: We wouldn't be getting promoted either way. We'd be second and would not be getting the chance to improve on it. Yeah and your chairman would be happy with that. Come on. As san starko says raith would be raging quite rightly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: Queen of the South voting to end as is, no shock there while they're sitting in 9th place. http://www.qosfc.com/news-4994 Another trying to pretend that self interest has no influence on their decision. You could write their press releases for them it's that obvious what theyre going to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said: Another trying to pretend that self interest has no influence on their decision. You could write their press releases for them it's that obvious what theyre going to say. I agree and that why I said your fans and club would be no different, I can guarantee the clubs sat 8/9 will all vote to end the season as it will protect them from relegation as will the teams in first fro promotion and also Brechin again self preservation. Every team will vote for what is best for them and then dress it up as being what's best for the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Yeah and your chairman would be happy with that. Come on. As san starko says raith would be raging quite rightly. I don't see that. We'd obviously be disappointed with the way it had worked out and the point we'd reached - but given the point we had reached, we'd be entirely unaffected by whether or not it was Falkirk or Partick who were with us in League One next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: I agree and that why I said your fans and club would be no different, I can guarantee the clubs sat 8/9 will all vote to end the season as it will protect them from relegation as will the teams in first fro promotion and also Brechin again self preservation. Every team will vote for what is best for them and then dress it up as being what's best for the game. That's what really gets my goat is that not one of these clubs has the balls to come out and say we're voting yes because it suits us. This vote is all about self preservation and whilst I disagree with the current proposal I dont expect clubs to vote to make themselves worse. It's just a shame they wont admit that's why their voting the way they are and not because of some fairytale way of saving scottish football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I think our statement is in all honesty saying that very thing. We need the payments Edited April 9, 2020 by FREDDYFRY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 https://giphy.com/gifs/qH7J4EXzSCmBy/html5 Well, since we're busy beating this dead horse into the ground, I'll try a distraction. What is the correct rule to be added to the SPFL book to handle a shutdown like this? I'll start... Rule) In the case of football being shutdown by Government action, Acts of God, or any similar situation, the following shall apply as of June 30th of each year: 1) In the case of less than 50% of scheduled games having been completed for all teams, the season shall be considered null and void. All teams shall remain in their present position, available prize monies shall be distributed across each division, based on the total percentage of the lump sum of the available monies being allocated, in total, to each division for finishing positions. This sum shall be divided equally between all competing teams in that division. (Celtic would never accept it, but...) 2) In the case of at least 50%, but not 75% of scheduled games having been completed for all teams, and as long as each team has played each other team at least once home and away, the season shall be decided based upon the standings calculated when taking the results from the first home and away head to head meeting of each team in the division. All other results shall be discarded for this calulation. 3) In the case of at least 75% of scheduled games having been completed for all teams, regardless of if a third and/or fourth yearly meeting between teams has occured, then the final league stadnings shall be calculated by allocating each team their average points earned for a home game or an away game, calulated separately, for each of their remaining unplayed games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 You can probably predict which way 90% will vote by looking at the table, the only clubs that'll vote without bias will be the likes of Clyde and Dumbarton who have no vested interest either way as they're safe from relegation and no chance of promotion. The rest will vote for what is in their interest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 The folk that still think we can complete this season are the same folk that will be down Portobello beach with a BBQ on Sunday. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, FREDDYFRY said: I think our statement is in all honesty saying that very thing. We need the payments Its shocking that clubs are being forced to vote for something simply to survive. The priority should be getting cash out to clubs that need it now. What happens regarding promotions and relegation can then be discussed as a separate issue with clubs not having to vote simply because they need cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Back kick, the goalie would be a back kick. Some of the old diddies on here will be along in a minute to tell you a back kick is a full back. It might've been in their day, but a goalkeeper who doubled as an outfield player was a back kick. FACT!Backie surely! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: You can probably predict which way 90% will vote by looking at the table, the only clubs that'll vote without bias will be the likes of Clyde and Dumbarton who have no vested interest either way as they're safe from relegation and no chance of promotion. The rest will vote for what is in their interest. Even Clyde and Dumbarton will be biased, as everything revolves around money. The proposal, as it is, would see us both welcoming Falkirk and Partick Thistle on four occasions next season. Both teams will be tripping over themselves to have that cash coming in. That's why this whole thing is a nonsense. The problem is, so would any other suggested solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Backie surely! Backie-ann? we called it. Feck knows why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, ShaggerG said: Backie-ann? we called it. Feck knows why. Backie-Any, a utility player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, David W said: Even Clyde and Dumbarton will be biased, as everything revolves around money. The proposal, as it is, would see us both welcoming Falkirk and Partick Thistle on four occasions next season. Both teams will be tripping over themselves to have that cash coming in. That's why this whole thing is a nonsense. The problem is, so would any other suggested solution. Welcoming them assuming there is no reconstruction bolted on later (if that’s possible) otherwise we’d be bumped back down again like the last 2 occasions. Typically that’s what will probably happen knowing us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 hours ago, stevoraith said: The folk that still think we can complete this season are the same folk that will be down Portobello beach with a BBQ on Sunday. A lot has changed since February 10th, expect a lot more to have changed by June 10th, especially when not just your own but the global economy is failing. Once business restarts there will be no reason for sport to do any different. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just getting in before the barrow load of “sense prevails” posts later this afternoon. Have a great day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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