Loonytoons Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Just looking back at the final table there to see how close it was, and got sidetracked looking at a few of the final tables around that era. I remember being a youngster at school in the 80's with the new firm of Alex Ferguson's Aberdeen and Jim McLean's United teams being competitive and up there with the OF for a few years, but I never realised how incredibly consistent both clubs were for a decent number of seasons. Here's their finishing positions for the 18 seasons from 1976-77 upto 1993-94: Aberdeen: 3,2,4,1,2,2,3,1,1,4,4,4,2,2,2,6,2,2 Dundee United: 4,3,3,4,5,4,1,3,3,3,3,5,4,4,4,4,4,6 In a six year period in the eighties, there were only two OF title wins, including 3 consecutive seasons with no OF titles. Must have been brilliant. You realise even more how stale and shite our top league has become because of the financial clout of the big two. Aye, I grew up through that too. My Dad took me to the United European games and a fair few United v Aberdeen games. Rangers were an irrelevance for half a decade in the 80's, Celtic less so but few titles. Funny how the redtops never complained that Scottish football needed a strong OF back then. The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day. Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Loonytoons said: The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day. Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team. We just need to allow Celtic and Sevco Colts teams in the lower leagues and in a couple of years Spain, France, Germany and Brazil will be shiting it if they get drawn against us. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Presumably Hearts and Thistle submitted their responses to the SFA yesterday for breaking the rules regarding going to the courts... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Loonytoons said: Aye, I grew up through that too. My Dad took me to the United European games and a fair few United v Aberdeen games. Rangers were an irrelevance for half a decade in the 80's, Celtic less so but few titles. Funny how the redtops never complained that Scottish football needed a strong OF back then. The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day. Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team. Since they aren't the league body who distribute money, what difference wouldn it make if they did look back to then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Since they aren't the league body who distribute money, what difference wouldn it make if they did look back to then? to be fair, the poster was writing about the national team, therefore the SFA could bring pressure on the league organisation through something innovative, like, let's think, Project Brave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Project Brave costs the clubs more. It has nothing to do with the distribution of money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Project Brave costs the clubs more. It has nothing to do with the distribution of money.It has everything to do with the distribution of money. The clubs who have achieved Elite level are given far more funding than the others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Much negated by the costs of achieving that status. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Loonytoons said: Aye, I grew up through that too. My Dad took me to the United European games and a fair few United v Aberdeen games. Rangers were an irrelevance for half a decade in the 80's, Celtic less so but few titles. Funny how the redtops never complained that Scottish football needed a strong OF back then. The national team was probably at it's best during that period too, 78-86 squads undoubtedly under performed but could have beaten anyone on their day. Strange how the SFA don't look back to those years and wonder if the redistribution of money may have had the biggest impact on the decline of national team. The biggest factor in the decline of the national team is that other countries have invested heavily in coaching and youth development and left Scotland trailing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, AJF said: The biggest factor in the decline of the national team is that other countries have invested heavily in coaching and youth development and left Scotland trailing. Nope, it's because we're too wee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said: Nope, it's because we're too wee. Just as Wee Gordie Strachan says. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Just as Wee Gordie Strachan says. Yes, that was the best bit! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said: Nope, it's because we're too wee. Too many chips on our shoulder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Probably to avoid getting them soggy with the plate full of sauce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, AJF said: The biggest factor in the decline of the national team is that other countries have invested heavily in coaching and youth development and left Scotland trailing. What do you think they should do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: What do you think they should do? I don’t know, but I don’t have any experience in the football industry and it’s not my job to know. I’m not sure what I said was ground breaking though, do you disagree? Comparative countries (population wise at least) are decades ahead of Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AJF said: I don’t know, but I don’t have any experience in the football industry and it’s not my job to know. I’m not sure what I said was ground breaking though, do you disagree? Comparative countries (population wise at least) are decades ahead of Scotland. What do you think would help as a fan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Project Brave costs the clubs more. It has nothing to do with the distribution of money. I was mocking Project Brave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 16 hours ago, gogsy said: Even after the game v Hearts, Utd would have won the title on goal difference if they had beaten Clydebank (D 1-1 ) and St Mirren (L 1-2) . St Mirren , Pissing in Hearts beer since 1986 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Insaintee said: St Mirren , Pissing in Hearts beer since 1986 Paisley folk. Pissing on themselves since bygone days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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