Jacksgranda Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 hours ago, ropy said: The SPFL have 7 days to respond to something, what is the actual question? It's no fair, is it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Aim Here said: If Hearts and Thistle honestly think that "Let's end the season as-is, but without promotion or relegation" really is the equitable remedy for the covid19 situation, I'd imagine that it should, at the very least, have been proposed to the SPFL for some sort of discussion and/or vote first. If you have a problem with someone, you first contact them to say what the problem is and what you want them to do to rectify it, after all. It would be bad form to suddenly spring a novel idea on the Scottish leagues by attempting to force it via a lawsuit, and the judge/defending advocate would be entitled to ask whether they bothered to propose it first under the SPFL governance systems, and, if not, why the f**k not. Think you've got things upside down here. Budge is not the CH Ex of the SPFL. Budge is doing the petitioning. More relevant to his/her lordship will be what options did the board properly evaluate, before telling the clubs that there was only one solution - and the clubs had to vote yes (within 48 hours) to get £9m released. It will be interesting to find out how much work McLelland allowed on null and void, and how much exploration was given to maybe being able to play. I also hope any personal bonus Doncaster had riding on the 1st August SKY deal is brought into the open and questions asked as to whether it influenced his attitude. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I am confident that Tom English will do a full, fair and frank assessment of Hearts attempt to stop Dundee Utds promotion to the Premiership. ...............or, he may just obfuscate and talk about what a smashing club Hearts are taking on the SPFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Think you've got things upside down here. Budge is not the CH Ex of the SPFL. Budge is doing the petitioning. More relevant to his/her lordship will be what options did the board properly evaluate, before telling the clubs that there was only one solution - and the clubs had to vote yes (within 48 hours) to get £9m released. It will be interesting to find out how much work McLelland allowed on null and void, and how much exploration was given to maybe being able to play. I also hope any personal bonus Doncaster had riding on the 1st August SKY deal is brought into the open and questions asked as to whether it influenced his attitude. WTF is going on with you lot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: Last season the James Keatings affair when they refused to turn around a sending off That went around the UK became that embarrassing the SFA stepped in & sorted it. Expelling hearts & PT would be 1000x this embarrassing. You can’t get a fucking sponsor as it is but aye expelling teams that’s help At least you havent furthered how thick you look by getting that spectacularly wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Lofarl said: This is Hearts Sevco moment. No matter what happens to them people will remember their desperate antics to avoid the drop. I wasn’t old enough to remember 86. But this is probably much funnier. No, no it's not! But it is very funny! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: Expelling hearts & PT would be about 1000x funnier than rangers dying back in 2012 FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Tynierose said: Let's be perfectly frank here, the aim was always about self preservation. If anyone believed that a Hearts that finished 8th would have done any of this they're delusional. It's all about self protection and that's football in this country in a nutshell. Budge would have been as well being straight from the start instead of the path she followed. Everyone knew what the agenda was in any case. When it comes down to it she is very much responsible for the situation Hearts find themselves in. I don’t think you have read the script? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 WTF is going on with you lot?They've aw been wanking each other off on Kickback and convincing themselves about whatever saves them. To summarise;They knew there wouldn't be a vote to end the league [emoji735]And that it wouldn't pass [emoji735]And that it would be overturned because of Dundee's vote being ineligible [emoji735]The **** dossier was going to both pass a vote and see the SPFL chief exec and lawyer emptied [emoji735]Reconstruction was going to pass. 3 different times [emoji735]Doncaster was going to force through reconstruction [emoji735] You'd think they'd get fucking tired of being wrong, but nope, every single time they talk themselves into the next one definitely working. They're the football equivalent of a serial shoplifter continuously walking into the same shop, stealing the same thing, and getting lifted every time. Fucking halfwits. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Think you've got things upside down here. Budge is not the CH Ex of the SPFL. Budge is doing the petitioning. More relevant to his/her lordship will be what options did the board properly evaluate, before telling the clubs that there was only one solution - and the clubs had to vote yes (within 48 hours) to get £9m released. It will be interesting to find out how much work McLelland allowed on null and void, and how much exploration was given to maybe being able to play. I also hope any personal bonus Doncaster had riding on the 1st August SKY deal is brought into the open and questions asked as to whether it influenced his attitude. It's nothing to do with the vote in early April. If this is a matter warranting the intervention of the Court, Ann Budge should have told them beforehand that the law was on her side and they should Do The Right Thing by doing whatever proposal she has in mind in the lawsuit - and maybe asking for the vote to be redone- if necessary, overturning the previous one.. It's customary to actually make your demands to the other party, before initiating a lawsuit. As for 'null and void' - the proposal mooted in the lawsuit is very much NOT null and void, so it doesn't matter a f**k whether it was extensively explored or ignored altogether. It's not what Hearts are asking for. Edited June 18, 2020 by Aim Here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, billyg said: Hertz now trying to block any club being promoted ! If they keep this up they may well piss off enough clubs to see themselves in danger of expulsion ! Hope none of you guys posting this sort of stuff are directors of clubs or the SPFL. From what I can see, anti-competitive offences can carry up to 5 year jail terms. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bohemian Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Pet Jeden said: Hope none of you guys posting this sort of stuff are directors of clubs or the SPFL. From what I can see, anti-competitive offences can carry up to 5 year jail terms. 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Bohemian said: They just keep coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jacksgranda Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Hope none of you guys posting this sort of stuff are directors of clubs or the SPFL. From what I can see, anti-competitive offences can carry up to 5 year jail terms. Stendel and Levein could be in bother, then... 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Hope none of you guys posting this sort of stuff are directors of clubs or the SPFL. From what I can see, anti-competitive offences can carry up to 5 year jail terms. Expelling Hearts from the SPFL is not anticompetitive behaviour. Hearts can't force other teams to let them play in their tournament, just the same way you can't use competition law to force Auchtermuchty Bowling Club to let you play their intramural competition if you're not a member. Nothing about expulsion from the SPFL stops Hearts playing football anywhere and anywhen with anyone willing to play against them. It's a free association issue, not a business competition law one. It's only if, say, the SPFL introduced sanctions designed to prevent Hearts playing outside the SPFL or the League Cup that issues of competition law might kick in. Edited June 18, 2020 by Aim Here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aim Here said: It's nothing to do with the vote in early April. If this is a matter warranting the intervention of the Court, Ann Budge should have told them beforehand that the law was on her side and they should Do The Right Thing by doing whatever proposal she has in mind in the lawsuit - and maybe asking for the vote to be redone- if necessary, overturning the previous one.. It's customary to actually make your demands to the other party, before initiating a lawsuit. As for 'null and void' - the proposal mooted in the lawsuit is very much NOT null and void, so it doesn't matter a f**k whether it was extensively explored or ignored altogether. It's not what Hearts are asking for. Strictly speaking you're maybe right. But how different is no relegation/no promotion to null & void? As for saying AB should have done more - very droll. Right friends, I'm going to watch these English giants, Northampton and Exeter, who are miraculously managing to play some play offs mid June without the expertise of the SPFL. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aim Here said: Expelling Hearts from the SPFL is not anticompetitive behaviour. Hearts can't force other teams to let them play in their tournament, just the same way you can't use competition law to force Auchtermuchty Bowling Club to let you play.Nothing about expulsion from the SPFL stops Hearts playing football anywhere and anywhen with anyone willing to play against them. It's a free association issue, not a business competition law one. It's only if, say, the SPFL introduced sanctions designed to prevent Hearts playing outside the SPFL or the League Cup that issues of competition law might kick in. No you're wrong. The SPFL would be abusing it's dominant position in Scottish football. Right. definitely good night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bose Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Strictly speaking you're maybe right. But how different is no relegation/no promotion to null & void? As for saying AB should have done more - very droll. Right friends, I'm going to watch these English giants, Northampton and Exeter, who are miraculously managing to play some play offs mid June without the expertise of the SPFL. Yeah pick a team. You might need someone to support soon. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I'm all for kicking Hearts out of the SPFL. We should do this more. I'm equally all for the resolution that Hearts are proposing to deny Dundee United promotion. Either of these two are entirely fair IMO. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Bose said: Yeah pick a team. You might need someone to support soon. Northampton are playing in Maroon tops and white shorts, obvious choice.. just missed a penalty too.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.