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2 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Also their insinuation that big bad Brechin have somehow managed to sway everyone to avoid their relegation is disingenuous pish. A lot of folk seem to buying the nonsense that Brechin hold some sort of mad power.

It's possible.  Hartlepool saved themselves from 14 re-elections out of Division 3N/4 because they served the best hospitality in the division, and their chairman was friendly with most of the other chairmen in the League.  Ken Ferguson presumably is a fairly popular figure, given his role on the SPFL board.

 

On the other hand Gateshead got knocked out on their second go because they were not very good at the political game - and for years were the worst-supported club in the English League.  Long shlep for no gates.

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Playing 80% of the season is enough to conclude it on sporting merit as UEFA have said.

Thats what has been voted for and passed.

Its the best option out of all the options and i look forward to this season shutting down.Hopefully first thing tomorrow morning.

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I had the misfortune to meet quite a few club Chairmen over the years, none have been shrinking violets, quite the opposite in fact. Now we are being told these rich, successful, self made men are whimpering in the corner over threats made by people they effectively employ.

Seems strange.

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14 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

 


Why? What possible case would it be? It’s a private enterprise dealing with things in house.

 

There is almost no part of life that the courts these days will refrain from getting involved with - if somebody is prepared to test it. Football has always liked to think it is an exception but as the the Pelosi and Duncan Ferguson and Bosman cases showed, it isn't.

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18 minutes ago, JTS98 said:

I don't disagree. But this overlooks Queen Ann's whole point that no club should have to carry the covid-19 can.

It wasn't necessary for this to be the case, but the self-interest of the other clubs has meant that some Hearts employees will lose their jobs.

I know it's not going to happen, I absolutely understand that. But my argument is that nobody should have gone down and that the Scottish Premiership clubs should be ashamed of themselves for what they have decided to do to earn themselves an extra few grand next season.

But, that's people, isn't it?

Your argument is Premiership clubs should dilute their share of the Premiership pot (reconstruction) or Dundee United should forgo promotion, so that Hearts don't suffer financially?

Basically someone else should take a financial hit so that Hearts don't have to, despite Hearts' poor sporting performance putting them in that position, as happens every season.

Its Ann Budge levels of deluded and lacking in self-awareness.

 

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8 minutes ago, Sparticus said:

Playing 80% of the season is enough to conclude it on sporting merit as UEFA have said.

Thats what has been voted for and passed.

Its the best option out of all the options and i look forward to this season shutting down.Hopefully first thing tomorrow morning.

We've only completed 78.5% of the season tbf.

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44 minutes ago, JTS98 said:

Again, you've not answered the questions.

Why should Dundee get a negotiating position and not anybody else?

Nobody else got a heads up from the governing body on Friday afternoon. Playing dumb just makes you look silly.

But everyone was in a negotiating position.

You say the system is flawed, and it might well be, however all clubs were working to the same system.

I didn't hear the calls or read the statements to change the 'flawed system' before the vote.

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5 minutes ago, Sparticus said:

Is that true? well i thought it was 80%

38 rounds of 6 games, 49 games remain.

1 - 49 / (38*6) = 0.785...

So, we'd have to play another round of games. Still not enough to save Hearts. 🤣

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11 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

Your argument is Premiership clubs should dilute their share of the Premiership pot (reconstruction) or Dundee United should forgo promotion, so that Hearts don't suffer financially?

Basically someone else should take a financial hit so that Hearts don't have to, despite Hearts' poor sporting performance putting them in that position, as happens every season.

Its Ann Budge levels of deluded and lacking in self-awareness.

 

This is it in a nutshell.

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Do feel a bit for Partick, they had a chance to stay up.Very unlucky but they were still the worst team over the shortened sesson.

Hearts and Stranraer were going down anyway.

Every ying has a yang though.Dundee utd and Cove went up early but like Hearts and stranraer they were moving divisions anyway.

Particks Yang is Raith who get to go up

2 minutes ago, Illgresi said:

38 rounds of 6 games, 49 games remain.

1 - 49 / (38*6) = 0.785...

So, we'd have to play another round of games. Still not enough to save Hearts. 🤣

Oh well.Every cloud and all that lol

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19 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

Your argument is Premiership clubs should dilute their share of the Premiership pot (reconstruction) or Dundee United should forgo promotion, so that Hearts don't suffer financially?

Basically someone else should take a financial hit so that Hearts don't have to, despite Hearts' poor sporting performance putting them in that position, as happens every season.

Its Ann Budge levels of deluded and lacking in self-awareness.

 

Their sporting performance is often glossed over, especially by Ann Budge in order to try and ensure everyone forgets how badly she’s fucked up.

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22 minutes ago, Romeo said:
33 minutes ago, ropy said:
I was using man in the most generic mankind sort of way

Too late mate, I've phoned the police.

I am out exercising, they won’t find me

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37 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

Your argument is Premiership clubs should dilute their share of the Premiership pot (reconstruction) or Dundee United should forgo promotion, so that Hearts don't suffer financially?

Basically someone else should take a financial hit so that Hearts don't have to, despite Hearts' poor sporting performance putting them in that position, as happens every season.

Its Ann Budge levels of deluded and lacking in self-awareness.

 

I think I've been quite clear all along that , yes, it would be fitting for the Premiership clubs to share the pain by each taking a small hit to ensure no club has to take a big hit.

I've never hidden that.

Of course, self-interest means they won't do that, and I fully understand that. But my view is that it would be the right thing to do.

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21 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

What a state Gardiner has got himself into. Toys out the pram because ICT were nowhere near enough to get out of the Championship.

There will be a gig waiting for him at Ibrox whenever Sevco punt their current Loyalist statement guy.

Ooft. 

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7 minutes ago, JTS98 said:

I think I've been quite clear all along that , yes, it would be fitting for the Premiership clubs to share the pain by each taking a small hit to ensure no club has to take a big hit.

I've never hidden that.

Of course, self-interest means they won't do that, and I fully understand that. But my view is that it would be the right thing to do.

Of course that's your view. Your view completely driven by self interest.

#socialism4hearts

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