FairWeatherFan Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, Shannon said: Is there not 67 teams so 4 X 16 doesn't work? 16-16-17-18 would perhaps make most sense as teams in bottom division less likely to go as far in the cup competitions so gives them more league games from 2021-22 onwards. Or could it be taking so long as perhaps thinking 18-16-16-17 long term? I don't think there's a long term for just the 67 clubs. In the same way there was the 68th applicant that tried and failed, there's likely to be the odd St Cadoc's and Drumchapel United to come. Then there's promotion and relegation implications that could see the WoSFL change over time. The only thoughts are likely to be on getting a shape in place for 2021-22. That would be easier to do top down since they'd definitely know they'd have the numbers for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Shannon said: Is there not 67 teams so 4 X 16 doesn't work? 16-16-17-18 would perhaps make most sense as teams in bottom division less likely to go as far in the cup competitions so gives them more league games from 2021-22 onwards. Or could it be taking so long as perhaps thinking 18-16-16-17 long term? Ffs aye bud forgot about the 3 clubs joining the ex junior's been that long from the announcement with very little info since then . Aye 16 top division anyway surely as they are most likely to be involved in latter stages of cup comps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Could they go with 5 leagues instead? It would make it easier to fit other teams in when they apply. You'd have to assume the pyramid will only grow in numbers. Could do 14-14-14-12-11. Current structure doesn't lend itself to that any time soon right enough. Alternatively they could regionalise further at tier 8. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 The top tier league will be 16 teams either from 2021-22 or the following season, that will depend on the vote. It won't be 14. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jones Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, glensmad said: The top tier league will be 16 teams either from 2021-22 or the following season, that will depend on the vote. It won't be 14. Top 16 league is the best way forward for me. Thirty League games, 1 home; 1 away against league sides and either 2 or 3 cup competitions. Satisfies most of the tick boxes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, glensmad said: The top tier league will be 16 teams either from 2021-22 or the following season, that will depend on the vote. It won't be 14. Agree clubs won't vote themselves out top league or vote for less opportunity to participate in top league. They would be better getting it done next season save hassle working out lower division numbers if they don't. Am expecting strong leadership and more common sense from WOSL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Think the 16 about the right number, hopefully when you see teams go up and down, things will look better and organised. Suppose the bottleneck maybe when the team's don't get into the spfl every season. Think my mathematics are screwed up since my schooldays ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) On 27/06/2020 at 03:55, clash city rocker said: Ffs aye bud forgot about the 3 clubs joining the ex junior's been that long from the announcement with very little info since then . Aye 16 top division anyway surely as they are most likely to be involved in latter stages of cup comps. It's actually FOUR non-ex-junior clubs (Bonnyton, Glasgow Uni, Drumchapel Utd & St Cadocs) plus the 63 that are ex-WRSJFA. There's currently a consultation paper gone out to WoSFL clubs regarding several issues, including the number of relegations from Tier 6 to Tier 7 in first two seasons (7 & 3 or 5 & 5) and the names to be used for the divisions once the new 4-tier structure is finalised (16+16+18+17 is apparently the split being aimed for, dependent on any existing clubs not surviving or new clubs joining in 2021). Edited June 28, 2020 by archieb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Might be 67 teams today i'd expect to see that go down unless others join. Why down? Because i expect the top guns like Talbot etc to move on up into the Lowland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, archieb said: It's actually FOUR non-ex-junior clubs (Bonnyton, Glasgow Uni, Drumchapel Utd & St Cadocs) plus the 63 that are ex-WRSJFA. There's currently a consultation paper gone out to WoSFL clubs regarding several issues, including the number of relegations from Tier 6 to Tier 5 in first two seasons (7 & 3 or 5 & 5) and the names to be used for the divisions once the new 4-tier structure is finalised (16+16+18+17 is apparently the split being aimed for, dependent on any existing clubs not surviving or new clubs joining in 2021). Relegations from tier 6 to tier 5, Archie ?...This is truly a brand new world....Tell us more... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Ach,...I see what you meant when I re-read it Archie..sorry. But please don't tell me that we'll be calling it "Premiership, Championship, Diddieship, Awfulship" Is there any reason we can't just call our new leagues WoSL divisions 1,2,3,4...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Black Pennel said: Ach,...I see what you meant when I re-read it Archie..sorry. But please don't tell me that we'll be calling it "Premiership, Championship, Diddieship, Awfulship" Is there any reason we can't just call our new leagues WoSL divisions 1,2,3,4...? You mean the I'm all right Jack Premiership and the A,B, C take it or leave it diddy leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Hmmm,...what exactly is your problem with a merit based league structure Toots ? I don't know if you've ever told us why you object to that idea... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Might be 67 teams today i'd expect to see that go down unless others join. Why down? Because i expect the top guns like Talbot etc to move on up into the Lowland League. But don't you expect Albion Rovers etc. to come down? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Stag Nation said: But don't you expect Albion Rovers etc. to come down? Wouldn't surprise me to see the spfl2 play offs to change in the future, maybe the clubs 41 & 42 to play v the HL,LL winners in some sort of round robin thing - where you wouldn't guarantee the lower level sides to always go up. Just thinking of spfl self preservation working again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Ach,...I see what you meant when I re-read it Archie..sorry. But please don't tell me that we'll be calling it "Premiership, Championship, Diddieship, Awfulship" Is there any reason we can't just call our new leagues WoSL divisions 1,2,3,4...?I will be very surprised if the clubs stick to thise cringeworthy names again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Black Pennel said: Relegations from tier 6 to tier 5, Archie ?...This is truly a brand new world....Tell us more... Oops! Slip of the finger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, archieb said: Oops! Slip of the finger Things like this happen when you attempt to correct another poster ,, actually lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Black Pennel said: Hmmm,...what exactly is your problem with a merit based league structure Toots ? I don't know if you've ever told us why you object to that idea... Merit based as in all in it together starting afresh in the pyramid with 4 seeded conference leagues? Sign me up. Oh hold on, eh eh the SFA says they can only handle one league in the West. Right lads problem solved. Diddies can have ABC diddy leagues. Psst, don't anybody mention when the EoSFL expanded a couple of years back they had all in Conference leagues for the first season. If you fancy a four page arguement on Sporting Integrity fire on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Stag Nation said: But don't you expect Albion Rovers etc. to come down? Is this the same Albion Rovers that want to ditch relegation for 5 years because of the price of bus to Brora? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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