jimbaxters Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: What a shame the 20 team Premier Division decision happened in April/May and the IMG didn't become a thing until months later. True but there were still people in charge of the WoSFL project at that point before the current encumbents. It's old news but responsibility for a horrible decision is still a thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: True but there were still people in charge of the WoSFL project at that point before the current encumbents. It's old news but responsibility for a horrible decision is still a thing. Yeah, so you would have been happy with the SFA just forcing through the 2019-20 West Premiership becoming the 2020-21 West Premier Division without changes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said: Yeah, so you would have been happy with the SFA just forcing through the 2019-20 West Premiership becoming the 2020-21 West Premier Division without changes? Immaterial what would have made me happy. A 20 club league was idiocy. That's all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Can you imagine some of these shysters trying these tricks in the LL or above. They'd be laughed out the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Yeah, so you would have been happy with the SFA just forcing through the 2019-20 West Premiership becoming the 2020-21 West Premier Division without changes? Thought we were all in it together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: Thought we were all in it together. And then SFA say no. Now what? Edited October 28, 2020 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkennedy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Legal proceedings!!! You mean the WoSFL leaderships arses collapsed. As I have said, clubs were asked there opinion on should the 3 clubs be promoted the overwhelming majority said yes. Does it really matter now, surely we have moved on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mkennedy said: As I have said, clubs were asked there opinion on should the 3 clubs be promoted the overwhelming majority said yes. Does it really matter now, surely we have moved on You got enough room in that lifeboat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkennedy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: You got enough room in that lifeboat? I’m doing just fine thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankies Alive Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 So in England they either let crowds in or get compensation at non league level yet up here we get neither! Well done Scottish Govt great way to kill the National sport . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Mkennedy said: As I have said, clubs were asked there opinion on should the 3 clubs be promoted the overwhelming majority said yes. Does it really matter now, surely we have moved on Most have moved on but some people find it harder than others to adjust to clubs having a say in the running of their league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Sour grapes ? Let's forget last season's chaotic ending - was never gonna please everyone. Moving forward, (license permitting) all champions go up automatically, then hopefully 21/22 will be close to normal again. The new WOSFL should be part run by the clubs, or at least have a say in how it's run by those above. Always thought the Juniors were a tight knitted bunch, got my doubts sometimes. Fans back by January my guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 27/10/2020 at 22:56, Mkennedy said: The only outstanding piece of work required for licence is floodlights, they should be complete by February’s deadline. All other works have been carried over the last two seasons. We have already submitted our license application, and are going through the various stages just now. That won’t mean we will win league, there are many top teams left in it. We are just happy to be in the premier division. And we got there without legal proceedings, as I’ve said before the clubs voted that the 3 championship clubs should get promoted Serious question. What is the minimum pitch size for the SPFL pyramid? I wonder, does anyone know who has the smallest pitch in the senior teams right now? There are teams like Shotts and Vale of Leven that could host cricket, never mind football, but surely there are pitches in the WoSL that could not be suitable for the SPFL, never mind trying to fit technical areas around them with the (presumed) required distances between pitch and seating? (Even forgetting the 1yard between touchline and technical area start). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: Serious question. What is the minimum pitch size for the SPFL pyramid? I wonder, does anyone know who has the smallest pitch in the senior teams right now? There are teams like Shotts and Vale of Leven that could host cricket, never mind football, but surely there are pitches in the WoSL that could not be suitable for the SPFL, never mind trying to fit technical areas around them with the (presumed) required distances between pitch and seating? (Even forgetting the 1yard between touchline and technical area start). Entry Level licence which would be good enough to get up to SPFL League One requires: Bronze Level licence which is good enough to get all the way to the SPFL Premiership: Outwith licencing (Tier 6 and below) I don't think there is an official minimum but the likes of EoSFL's entry criteria does stipulate "The playing field shall be in compliance with the laws of the game and must be a minimum of 90m in length and 56m in width" so they look to apply the minimum required by Entry level licencing as well. Its believed Ashfield would struggle on this criteria due to the way things played out with BSC Glasgow. They had originally been accepted to the Lowland League with Ashfield's ground as their home field, but never actually played there as they quickly moved to Maryhill. The belief being that the speedway at Ashfield would make it unsuitable for licencing standards. Edited October 29, 2020 by FairWeatherFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Its believed Ashfield would struggle on this criteria due to the way things played out with BSC Glasgow. They had originally been accepted to the Lowland League with Ashfield's ground as their home field, but never actually played there as they quickly moved to Maryhill. The belief being that the speedway at Ashfield would make it unsuitable for licencing standards.Berwick's Shiefield Park is used by the Berwick Bandits speedway team. Granted it may be the case Berwick Rangers get an exemption on historical grounds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: Berwick's Shiefield Park is used by the Berwick Bandits speedway team. Granted it may be the case Berwick Rangers get an exemption on historical grounds. I remember there being a mention that Berwick's pitch is larger as they've had more say on those matters. On ground criteria they meet Bronze for their licence. Wikipedia lists Shielfield's dimensions 100 x 70 yards. EDIT: Blurb from Ashfield's NLS page http://nonleaguescotland.org.uk/ashfield.htm Quote Entry to the ground is through the bar area. You even pay your admission to the bar staff. Beside the main stand is a terraced enclosure. Opposite the stand is a section of terracing with crush barriers. The actual pitch is very narrow, measuring exactly 50 yards. It was narrowed to accommodate the wide corners of the speedway track that replaced the previous dogtrack. The Peugeot Ashfield Stadium is also used by the Glasgow Tigers speedway team. Edited October 29, 2020 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Lok's 102 x 64 yds is good enough for entry level and we're one of the smallest. The initial rollout of licencing (iirc) wanted clubs to do 110 x70 which led to issues for Annan, Cowden and Brechin (again irrc). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Unless the imagery has been changed Google Maps has Ashfield as ~49m at the halfway line and 54m if you go to the edge of the speedway track, but that's still not enough. https://goo.gl/maps/SpcedibTgumxNKZY9 Central Park is 95x60m, while Shielfield is 100x58m. Darvel will need to extend their pitch by a couple of metres in each direction if they want to get to the Championship Edited October 29, 2020 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceejayar Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Ginaro said: Unless the imagery has been changed Google Maps has Ashfield as ~49m at the halfway line and 54m if you go to the edge of the speedway track, but that's still not enough. https://goo.gl/maps/SpcedibTgumxNKZY9 Central Park is 95x60m, while Shielfield is 100x58m. Darvel will need to extend their pitch by a couple of metres in each direction if they want to get to the Championship What size is Darvel’s pitch? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ceejayar said: What size is Darvel’s pitch? Measured it as 92.5x58m 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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