glensmad Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 As long as Phase 1 is completed in all leagues, which should be by the first weekend in January, then points per game will not be a factor. If the season has to finish before 100% of matches are played, then the final positions will be declared by the final Phase 1 tables. That is what the clubs agreed to before the season started. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Shanner said: I love seeing you kicking off about league tables. Wish the guy that used to do that weird Junior one would get his finger out. Forgot about that. Creating some algorithmic thing when there was an actual league table available as a way of discerning which teams were doing well. The gorm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotstvo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 07:45, Shanner said: I love seeing you kicking off about league tables. Wish the guy that used to do that weird Junior one would get his finger out. Thought you'd never ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 @jimbaxters you seeing this? ^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Shanner said: @jimbaxters you seeing this? ^^^ No. I have him on ignore ya pair of loonies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 He's a game behind for the six teams who played in the league on Saturday. [emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotstvo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 hours ago, glensmad said: He's a game behind for the six teams who played in the league on Saturday. Fair point. It scrapes off a third party site that’s maybe not been updated. I’ll update you in due course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) Edited November 27, 2021 by GNU_Linux 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glensmad Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 I'm still unclear as to why you have 9 teams highlighted in red at the bottom. It's a maximum of 8 teams going down, but most likely to be 7 or 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I'm still unclear as to why you have 9 teams highlighted in red at the bottom. It's a maximum of 8 teams going down, but most likely to be 7 or 6.What was the reason for the late call off of your game yesterday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, glensmad said: I'm still unclear as to why you have 9 teams highlighted in red at the bottom. It's a maximum of 8 teams going down, but most likely to be 7 or 6. 7 to make way for the three Conference Winners and the WoS Premier Champion not winning promotion. 8+9 to make way for the possibility of two teams relegated from the LL and the WoS Premier Champion fails to win promotion. No particular risk of actually happening with the way the LL is going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 What was the reason for the late call off of your game yesterday?Waterlogged 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 to make way for the three Conference Winners and the WoS Premier Champion not winning promotion. 8+9 to make way for the possibility of two teams relegated from the LL and the WoS Premier Champion fails to win promotion. No particular risk of actually happening with the way the LL is going.Two teams cannot be relegated into the WoSFL from the LL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, glensmad said: 17 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: 7 to make way for the three Conference Winners and the WoS Premier Champion not winning promotion. 8+9 to make way for the possibility of two teams relegated from the LL and the WoS Premier Champion fails to win promotion. No particular risk of actually happening with the way the LL is going. Two teams cannot be relegated into the WoSFL from the LL. At the start of any season there's the possibilty of the LL relegating two clubs and those two clubs falling into the WoSFL catchment area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 The promotion and relegation agreement between the four leagues allows for one team to be relegated and one team to be promoted. Any change to the four leagues agreement has to be agreed by all parties to the agreement.The LL already has more than 16 teams in their league at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, glensmad said: The promotion and relegation agreement between the four leagues allows for one team to be relegated and one team to be promoted. Any change to the four leagues agreement has to be agreed by all parties to the agreement. The LL already has more than 16 teams in their league at the moment. It's not a change. The LL has always had the possibility of relegating two clubs once it maxed out at 16 clubs, and so the Lower Pyramid Play-off rules have accounted for more than one club being relegated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 43 minutes ago, glensmad said: 47 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: 7 to make way for the three Conference Winners and the WoS Premier Champion not winning promotion. 8+9 to make way for the possibility of two teams relegated from the LL and the WoS Premier Champion fails to win promotion. No particular risk of actually happening with the way the LL is going. Two teams cannot be relegated into the WoSFL from the LL. It can happen if an HL club replaces Club 42 who are then in turn relegated into the LL because at that point second bottom in the LL also gets relegated to keep the LL at 16 (or 18 with the colt teams). It's just a hypothetical this season though because none of the WoS catchment clubs are likely to be in either 17th or 18th place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 It can't happen without the agreement of each of the parties to the 4 Leagues agreement. That's why the West Region SJFA couldn't become part of the pyramid instead of the WoSFL, because any changes to the 4 Leagues agreement need to be approved by all parties.The official rules of the WoSFL Premier Division (formally rubber-stamped by the Scottish FA and published on the Scottish FA Live Club Admin Site) makes no reference to the possibility of 2 teams being relegated into the league from the LL and 9 teams being relegated from the Premier Division. It does refer in detail to the various options for 6, 7 or 8 teams being relegated from the Premier Division with one or no teams relegated from the LL.The WoSFL have never at any point informed the clubs that 9 teams being relegated from the Premier Division was a possibility, and none of the graphics produced by the WoSFL have given any such indication either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, glensmad said: It can't happen without the agreement of each of the parties to the 4 Leagues agreement. That's why the West Region SJFA couldn't become part of the pyramid instead of the WoSFL, ... I was one of the first people on here to grasp that about the EoS having a veto over SJFA pyramid entry and actively tried to explain it to SJFA linked people on here when Tom Johnston was banging on about board directives with little success. There is near zero chance of the two teams relegated to the WoS scenario that is being described unfolding this season so it's not something that is worth making a huge fuss about at this point. By the sounds of things George Fraser & co failed to convey the full implications of LL rules when the playoff rules were being discussed with your league. No shock there. There have been several similar cock ups by the LL in recent years. Edited December 5, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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