Ludo*1 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Fifa has absolutely dominated the football scene since the PS3 days (I talk in Sony console generations since I've never owned Xbox) and probably even the latter end of the PS2 days tbh. Really interested to see how this will translate over on to the next generation of consoles though. Pro Evo seem to be holding off a year and have been up front that they'll just do an updated transfer list and are fully committed on revamping their engine and putting all of their focus on bringing out a quality game for the following year. This is something most fans of the series have been begging them to do for some time. Fifa/EA Sports have been resting on their laurels for a good few year now and with the addition of FUT, they've been rolling in the money without really needing to improve much. The latest Fifa reveal trailer for the next gen absolutely looks like just another re-skin. Fifa 20 is the first Fifa I've not owned since whatever came before Fifa 98 (I might be wrong - only reason I remember that one is for its banging tunes) The negative spin on this is summed up in one word: Konami. What's your thoughts on the new gen when it comes to football games? As a complete a side - I feel you can tell someone's age by whether they call the Konami franchise - ISS, Pro Evo or PES. Is that just me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 It's called Pro Ev. That's it. Not Pro Evo, not PES, not ISS. Pro Ev. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: It's called Pro Ev. That's it. Not Pro Evo, not PES, not ISS. Pro Ev. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 FIFA will win financially, Pro Evo will win on gameplay. Note how I called it Pro Evo - correctly. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 FIFA is for those who watch football. PES is for those who play football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Pro Evo is the superior actual football game but is dreadfully executed in terms of user interface and overall experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: Fifa has absolutely dominated the football scene since the PS3 days (I talk in Sony console generations since I've never owned Xbox) and probably even the latter end of the PS2 days tbh. Really interested to see how this will translate over on to the next generation of consoles though. Pro Evo seem to be holding off a year and have been up front that they'll just do an updated transfer list and are fully committed on revamping their engine and putting all of their focus on bringing out a quality game for the following year. This is something most fans of the series have been begging them to do for some time. Fifa/EA Sports have been resting on their laurels for a good few year now and with the addition of FUT, they've been rolling in the money without really needing to improve much. The latest Fifa reveal trailer for the next gen absolutely looks like just another re-skin. Fifa 20 is the first Fifa I've not owned since whatever came before Fifa 98 (I might be wrong - only reason I remember that one is for its banging tunes) The negative spin on this is summed up in one word: Konami. What's your thoughts on the new gen when it comes to football games? As a complete a side - I feel you can tell someone's age by whether they call the Konami franchise - ISS, Pro Evo or PES. Is that just me? What do you mean by who will win? Fifa will make more money if that's winning, but Pro Evo will make a better game as always. Those in the know will ken and buy Pro Evo and the mugs who think they ken will get Fifa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, djchapsticks said: Pro Evo is the superior actual football game but is dreadfully executed in terms of user interface and overall experience. Who gives the slightest f**k? Are you playing it for user interface? And what experience apart from playing the game where Pro Evo is obviously miles better. I have to say I called it ISS for a long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I was gonnae buy these jeans but the user interface isn't that good. Load of shite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I'll give Pro Evo a try next time due to how horrifically bad Fifa has been in recent years, arguably the worst online game in terms of pre determined victories and glitchy gameplay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I was gonnae buy these jeans but the user interface isn't that good. Load of shite. Horrendous analogy. But it depends largely on what game mode you play. Master League, for example, can require trawling through menus and tinkering with your formation/ starting 11. If the user interface is awkward to use and navigate, this can be a pain in the arse and make it less enjoyable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acon Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 What’s the gist with Pro Evo’s online nowadays? I’ve flitted between the 2 games in the last few years, I ended up with Fifa again this year due to it being about £20 in a sale and the fact my pals all play clubs. Also a sucker for manager mode despite the lack of real improvement in it in the last few years. Definitely prefer Pro Evo more for gameplay though, far superior. Just annoyed me with online lagging more than I find on Fifa. Tried to convince my pals to convert but they’re idiots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I’ve been extremely critical with Fifa with year but Pro Evo - it’s ten times worse. I like that it focuses on passing the ball but you can’t beat a man. You can’t play co-op online and you need to create rooms to get a game with a million different servers? The officiating is also ridiculous. Playing against my mate we obviously hack each other to death, but no one has ever been sent off. You need to tap shoot or else it balloons over the bar and you can just do a rainbow flick over your opponent like it’s a normal thing. I like the array of teams in Pro Evo, particularly internationals, but the gameplay is worse than Fifa and that’s disappointing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Who gives the slightest f**k? Are you playing it for user interface? And what experience apart from playing the game where Pro Evo is obviously miles better. I have to say I called it ISS for a long time. Erm, partly yes? I mainly play MyClub and Master League and the latter in particular is severely lacking in terms of ease of use as it's so pernickity. Master league has been a good idea for a long time but remains clunky as f**k in its execution. Also, the online matchmaking facility is completely fucking shite and their servers don't seem to handle too many folk online, especially in My Club and is very, very unstable. I want to pick a football game up and enjoy it straight away. No pick it up, read all Konami's wordy announcements then wait 6 minutes before I'm actually matched with someone online. As I say, it's a better fitba game again now....it wasn't for a long time and they called it in for about 6 or 7 years to the point where FIFA was a far better game in the late 2000's and early 2010's but they at least upped their game in that regard in the current gen. However, the fact Konami have barely even changed the UI since the days of PS2 is shoddy as f**k....they still even use the same stupid menu and alert sounds they've had since day dot, FFS. Clear it out for PES 2022. Make it feel like a completely new game. Edited July 22, 2020 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I was gonnae buy these jeans but the user interface isn't that good. Load of shite. That makes not a lick of sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 EA have the market sewn up thanks to the official licence and the FUT mode. They are under no pressure to improve the game beyond reskinning every year, because regardless of the quality of the game, kids still spend millions on FIFA points every year. Pro evo (correct terminology) for me, has almost always been a superior game let down by shitey menus and lack of licenses. The oft proposed restrictions on lootboxes may even the playing field slighty and force EA to actually fix their game. I would love if someone (looking at 2K here) threw their weight and money behind a third option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Who gives the slightest f**k? Are you playing it for user interface? And what experience apart from playing the game where Pro Evo is obviously miles better. I have to say I called it ISS for a long time. If you play Master League and take it seriously you easily spend as much time, if not more, in menus as you do in-game. It's a key part of that mode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 The winner will be the first who makes a serious single player career mode. Neither have had that for about a decade, with one being a bug riddled fucking mess, while the other hasn't moved on since the 90s apart from making it worse looking and less interesting. FIFA will continue to pump all their effort into UT, so theres a massive hole that Pro Evo can fill, if they notice it. Sadly they're more likely to fail to match UT and end up with a rancid single player game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: The winner will be the first who makes a serious single player career mode. Neither have had that for about a decade, with one being a bug riddled fucking mess, while the other hasn't moved on since the 90s apart from making it worse looking and less interesting. FIFA will continue to pump all their effort into UT, so theres a massive hole that Pro Evo can fill, if they notice it. Sadly they're more likely to fail to match UT and end up with a rancid single player game. Libero Grande 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 EA spends more development time making Mbappe's face look realistic than on the gameplay. The last good FIFA was 2012. They've been churning out half finished shite ever since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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