andy25 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 [emoji106] Dean McKenzie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, newcastle broon said: The LL is stronger than you are giving it credit for. Top half of the LL is strong, while the bottom half is generally two tiers higher than they will probably wind up in another decade or so. Fair enough to predict that clubs in the lower half will struggle against top WoS opponents that were in the west superleague last season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampantFM Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) On 05/09/2020 at 12:36, Deanburn Dave said: they just drew Vale of Leithen again ?? WTF ........based on the twitter feed something has gone wrong. Vale of Leven and Vale of leithen have been mixed up on their twitter feed That was my fault. I posted the fixture as Vale of Leithen instead of Vale of Leven on the live chat probably out of habit but it was correct on the stream draw. Joys of multitasking. Edited September 6, 2020 by RampantFM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmah Oil Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Newcastle Broon I dont mean no credit. But Gala got scudded off Tranent last year. Dalbeattie, Gretna not very good. Penicuik, Kilwinning, Hurlford top teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, Burmah Oil said: Newcastle Broon I dont mean no credit. But Gala got scudded off Tranent last year. Dalbeattie, Gretna not very good. Penicuik, Kilwinning, Hurlford top teams. Dunipace beat Bonnyrigg last year in same comp as well. As I said in another thread depends how seriously clubs want to win it,some will have priorities elsewhere this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Top half of the LL is strong, while the bottom half is generally two tiers higher than they will probably wind up in another decade or so. Fair enough to predict that clubs in the lower half will struggle against top WoS opponents that were in the west superleague last season. All for the good of the game their time will come eventually 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, RampantFM said: That was my fault. I posted the fixture as Vale of Leithen instead of Vale of Leven on the live chat probably out of habit but it was correct on the stream draw. Joys of multitasking. Was this tweet yours? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 That was my fault. I posted the fixture as Vale of Leithen instead of Vale of Leven on the live chat probably out of habit but it was correct on the stream draw. Joys of multitasking. [emoji23]One small blip on an otherwise outstanding performance. We'll done you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 7 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Top half of the LL is strong, while the bottom half is generally two tiers higher than they will probably wind up in another decade or so. They still deserve some credit for taking the leap to the LL when others were very shy of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) The failure to implement a second automatic relegation place after the mass defection of east region clubs three seasons ago means that they are mainly going to be remembered now for lingering like a bad smell. Edited September 6, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: The failure to implement a second automatic relegation place after the mass defection of east region clubs three seasons ago means that they are mainly going to be remembered now from lingering like a bad smell. By you maybe. Others will probably have seen it as a lopsided pyramid, that was then tied into licencing & PWG farces. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: The failure to implement a second automatic relegation place after the mass defection of east region clubs three seasons ago means that they are mainly going to be remembered now for lingering like a bad smell. Longtime ffs, common seriously. Did you think that was true 100% as you typed it out. You'll wake up in the morning, read what you typed and think "what was I on" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 If it sticks at one automatic relegation place (turkeys don't vote etc...), the playoff bottleneck is going to become a huge issue in the not too distant future because the east and west champions will have to playoff against each other. Something like Talbot vs Linlithgow Rose as a promotion playoff with a club like Edinburgh Uni safe for another year is going to be what gets remembered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: If it sticks at one automatic relegation place (turkeys don't vote etc...), the playoff bottleneck is going to become a huge issue in the not too distant future because the east and west champions will have to playoff against each other. Something like Talbot vs Linlithgow Rose as a promotion playoff with a club like Edinburgh Uni safe for another year is going to be what gets remembered. Ye raging aye 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: If it sticks at one automatic relegation place (turkeys don't vote etc...), the playoff bottleneck is going to become a huge issue in the not too distant future because the east and west champions will have to playoff against each other. Something like Talbot vs Linlithgow Rose as a promotion playoff with a club like Edinburgh Uni safe for another year is going to be what gets remembered. Be prepared for another licencing farce circa 2021. Only 6 months to go for February 2021. Leaving too few WoSFL clubs licenced ahead of the 2021-22 season to change the current LL playoff arrangement. Personally, don't see any changes until the 2022-23 season rolls around. Happily surprised if there's a change for 2021-22. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Be prepared for another licencing farce circa 2021. Only 6 months to go for February 2021. Leaving too few WoSFL clubs licenced ahead of the 2021-22 season to change the current LL playoff arrangement. Personally, don't see any changes until the 2022-23 season rolls around. Happily surprised if there's a change for 2021-22. I don’t think the play-off is done by licensed clubs, Is it not an agreement between the leagues? Therefore each clubs getting licensed doesn’t directly change the likelihood of any change. However it would add more weight to the argument of the tier 6 leagues if they had a high % of licensed clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, parsforlife said: I don’t think the play-off is done by licensed clubs, Is it not an agreement between the leagues? Therefore each clubs getting licensed doesn’t directly change the likelihood of any change. However it would add more weight to the argument of the tier 6 leagues if they had a high % of licensed clubs. The agreement is between the leagues. The argument for two promotion spots is strengthened by having two leagues basically guaranteed a licensed champion. If summer 2021 comes round and licensing has been held up there's no real reason to change the current format. On the other hand. Talbot, Kilwinning, Irvine Meadow, Clydebank, Cumnock, Darvel etc are getting their SFA memberships you've got pressure to change ahead of the 2021-22 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampantFM Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Marten said: Was this tweet yours? Indeed it was. Mistake was corrected for the 2nd round obviously when Vale of Leven were pulled out again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampantFM Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: The agreement is between the leagues. The argument for two promotion spots is strengthened by having two leagues basically guaranteed a licensed champion. If summer 2021 comes round and licensing has been held up there's no real reason to change the current format. On the other hand. Talbot, Kilwinning, Irvine Meadow, Clydebank, Cumnock, Darvel etc are getting their SFA memberships you've got pressure to change ahead of the 2021-22 season. Agree with you. Although, I think there is a problem with 2 automatic promotion spots and how it would work with 3 feeder leagues. Licensing in the Lowland League is predominately down to the Scottish Cup entry, hence why there's unlicensed teams in the East of Scotland with no issues. Only Vale of Leithen don't have floodlights installed now but that is soon to be eradicated after they got funding from the council. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampantFM Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: If it sticks at one automatic relegation place (turkeys don't vote etc...), the playoff bottleneck is going to become a huge issue in the not too distant future because the east and west champions will have to playoff against each other. Something like Talbot vs Linlithgow Rose as a promotion playoff with a club like Edinburgh Uni safe for another year is going to be what gets remembered. Only licensed clubs would be in the play-off in any instance. The West have to catchup with the East in terms of licensing obviously having just joined the pyramid. Most teams in the East of Scotland Premier are licensed so there is nothing stopping them from being promoted to the Lowland League automatically if a West team or South of Scotland are unlicensed. The reality is if a full season is played there is a high probability that 2 or 3 teams could be relegated from the Lowland League at the end of the season 17th - To get the league back down to 16 16th - EoS/WoS/SoS round robin winner (depending on licensed teams as previously mentioned) 15th - if a League Two team is relegated to Lowland League 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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