ICTJohnboy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Do you think support for independence would be higher or lower with a different leader? I'd say exactly the same. Leaders will come and leaders will go. Independence for Scotland is paramount, irrespective of who is leader. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Do you think support for independence would be higher or lower with a different leader? It's worth pointing out at his most straw-clutchy zenith in 2014, Wings went through all kinds of contortions to bring into doubt polls he disagreed with. I'm not too familiar with Wings, is he not some nutter on Twitter? I'm not even deriding the poll, the poster said it showed unprecedented support for Independence, it may do in the context of previous polling but as a stand alone statement then a few thousand people in a poll isn't the highest unprecedented support shown for Independence. I think support would be a lot lower if Sturgeon was to go, I've said it before and I'll say it again she's a brilliant politician and plays the game very well. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, MixuFruit said: sit doon Goodbye-ee! Goodbye-ee! Wipe the tear, baby dear, from your eye-ee. Though it's hard to part I know, (I know) I'll be tickled to death to go! Don't cry-ee, don't sigh-ee, There's a silver lining in the sky-ee! Bonsoir old thing, cheerio, chin-chin, Nah-poo, toodle-oo, goodbye-ee! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Nicola Sturgeon wont stand down until Indy has been achieved, the snp will then split, Mairi Black will be our first president. First Minister to President Sturgeon, shurely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Stuart Campbell aka Wings over Scotland. He was very active and persuasive in 2014 but since went down a transphobia rabbithole and is a total liability. I don't mind folk making technical criticisms of a poll in this context, just thought it was worth thinking about why people on the other side of the debate to you have done this historically. It's not the behaviour of someone confident in their cause. Aye I think I first saw him after the he was cancelled. Of course, I'm confident in the case of the Union, if polling was like this and we were having a referendum on the horizon then I'd be worried to an extent. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Aye, but polls are meaningless when they don't say what you want them to say m8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 People suggesting that polls showing the highest ever support for independence is in no way significant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Those polls mean nothing unfortunately......unless there is a plan to act on them. Is there a plan? Because I don't see it. Unless asking for another knockback from Boris counts as a plan. We are being dragged out of Europe and having the powers of the SP trashed through the internal market bill......and our elected leaders moan a lot, but continue to watch on. Meanwhile they continue to deride anyone who has the audacity to even explore a plan B. As things stand we are being marched up the hill again to grant yet another mandate to people who have spent 6 years no doing very much about independence. What would you like Nicola Sturgeon to do, and when? I’m genuinely curious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, madwullie said: People suggesting that polls showing the highest ever support for independence is in no way significant Where? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Stormzy said: Do you have an alarm set to click on my page to go to recent posts or is it a bit more free flowing? I respect the latter, the former is a tad obsessive. Reporting for an answer. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Stormzy said: Do you have an alarm set to click on my page to go to recent posts or is it a bit more free flowing? I respect the latter, the former is a tad obsessive. Not at all, during the 2 minutes I put aside to reply to the random dots you've been throwing around, I accidentally read one of your posts. I thought it would be a service to the good people of the forum to give your work some context. You seem to have reacted badly to me pointing out that an article about Sturgeon you clearly hadn't read, but posted as some kind of "gotcha" because of the headline, had absolutely nothing in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Brave OP. 2 pages of frothing af the mouth over the suggestion the dear leader isn't doing so well. Bawwaching beyond seething, handing out over 25 red dots on a Tuesday morning at 3am after clicking my profile, is it rent free the youngsters say? That's some dedication.. As Kinky said, Independence movement will suffer hugely when Sturgeon goes, hence the sheer panick and fingers in the ears going on in this thread. Nicola Sturgeon although recently performing terribly has done well in her tenure, she's done very well when having nothing to do and is a good political agitator for the morons that don't really pay attention to the promises and words that come out her mouth, a very old school sly politicians politician. Sleekit as you Scots would say. She would make an excellent Tory MP to be fair to her, there is nobody close to her in the SNP that is as sly or as good at manipulating common voters. The only potential outcome I see is Cherry but she's not going to do well with the middle ground, she's a little bit more incapable of playing politics imo, very intelligent lady but can't hide the typical Nationalist venom you can see dripping from her every time she's on TV. I suspect many of you don't realise how good you've had it with Sturgeon and when we're 50 years later and polling hasn't touched the highs of 2020 then you'll be reminiscing of what could have been! What could've been if you hadn't put out so many shite posts on Pie and Bovril and had actually engaged with the argument, what could have been if Sturgeon hadn't tried to play politics with a pandemic, what could have been if big auld Salmond hadn't decided to rear his ugly head again over his damaged ego. So anyone that actually supports the SNP got any salient points on who they think the next leader will be rather than the usual grunting so loud to try and defend the hivemind. Absolute state of this c**t [emoji38] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, MixuFruit said: sit doon Hardly surprising the way westminster is misbehaving on all fronts. Looks like Boris and Co have been a gift. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 is it rent free the youngsters say? That's some dedication..Hold on. You - a person who has done nothing but behave like an absolute child since they signed up to the forum under the alias of the “Stormzy” - are a grown man? [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, MixuFruit said: sit doon 2 hours ago, DrewDon said: It will go higher. Indeed it will, and while A'body's favourite A*r fan is no doubt a factor, it's another leader who is a major driver of these figures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Not at all, during the 2 minutes I put aside to reply to the random dots you've been throwing around, I accidentally read one of your posts. I thought it would be a service to the good people of the forum to give your work some context. You seem to have reacted badly to me pointing out that an article about Sturgeon you clearly hadn't read, but posted as some kind of "gotcha" because of the headline, had absolutely nothing in it. Ah right fair play, some of you guys are so similar and hiveminded you just mesh into one poster for me. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: Absolute state of this c**t Just the one emoji? -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: Hold on. You - a person who has done nothing but behave like an absolute child since they signed up to the forum under the alias of the “Stormzy” - are a grown man? Absolute state of this c**t *laughing emoji* -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Octopus Hands and his weirdo stooge Cherry have no chance of being anywhere near the SNP leadership anytime soon. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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