Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Given your lack of defence, clearly too clever for you......There's nothing to defend you thick boomer [emoji23] Good luck with your continuing yet fruitless efforts on this straw-man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 It'll be a fantastic day when Churchill's statue ends up in the muddy depths of the Thames. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 There's nothing to defend you thick boomer [emoji23] Good luck with your continuing yet fruitless efforts on this straw-man. As usual, insults and no defence.Carry on...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 As usual, insults and no defence.Carry on......Uh, you're asking me to defend a point you haven't made. I think we can safely assume you have absolutely nothing here. A situation I imagine you are more than familiar with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: As usual, insults and no defence. Carry on...... What are you implying, that he's a Nazi because of Joy Division (and New Order) name? They explained that 40 years ago. If you can point to anything that any member of the group has said to undermine them I'd like to see it. Edited March 14, 2021 by Sergeant Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Uh, you're asking me to defend a point you haven't made. I think we can safely assume you have absolutely nothing here. A situation I imagine you are more than familiar with. ^^^^^doesn’t understand..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 ^^^^^doesn’t understand.....Christ. You made a passing reference to my username, then nothing other than "no defence..." etc. If you're too afraid to make your point for fear of further ridicule, don't worry. We're all expecting you to make a c**t of yourself anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: It'll be a fantastic day when Churchill's statue ends up in the muddy depths of the Thames. Won't happen. Fortunately our brave statue defenders will be on stand by after tonight's antics. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Given that the Met police are probably the best in the world at dealing sensibily with large demonstrations Are we thinking of the same Met Police? I've still not stopped laughing at the one on horseback who decided to charge at BLM protestors last summer... only to get absolutely fucking twatted by a set of traffic lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Men are only allowed out after 6pm if they're protecting statues. A sensible compromise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Why are people amassing at the big mans statue? This surely isn't in relation to the Sarah Everard murder? You do know it's situated in the immediate vicinity of the Parliament? People aren't turning up at the feet of Winston asking for a dig out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Relax folks. Someone shared this definitely not far-fetched at all version of event on Facebook earlier Tonights vigil for Sarah. A female Officers point of view: It started with mainly only female officers overlooking a civil vigil. When numbers grew and social distancing seized more officers were called. When police officers tried to crowd control and remove people from stamping on flowers for Sarah they refused. Then it kicked off Then I saw people being arrested and my colleagues being assaulted when trying to transport said prisoner. Then I saw our vehicles being vandalised with spray with the word ACAB and a mirror being smashed. Then I thought what would Sarah’s family think about this? Then I saw and heard my colleagues being abused. They were called murderes, rapists, a female colleague was told it should have been her. And we were told to arrest each other. This is not ok. Sarah’s family and friends have been so gracious under the circumstances. I do not believe they would want this to happen. If it was me I would not want this to happen. Stop think and be civil we are all humans and we all are angry at what happened. We do not need more violence. I am a woman. I am a police officer. I am very proud of being both. This week has me exhausted. Physically from the job and mentally by all this. We are not at fault for what happened because if we knew we would have done what we could to stop it. To finalise this rant, to my colleagues: I am proud of you. You were insulted beyond what we are used to. We stand by our uniform, we’re proud to carry this warrant card so we can uphold the great office of Constable. Thank you for being there today hope you are all ok. This facebook post is utter bullshit. Any pictures of this spray painted vehicle. This is all part of the spin to try to say their actions was OK. It had already started with the gathering being described as a protest rather than a vigil. This is typical police behaviour, spin and lies to cover up their mistakes Flowers grow on a concrete bandstand do they, aye right Edited March 14, 2021 by Wile E Coyote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: As I said. One side continues to ridicule to suppress any debate.... I’m not suppressing any debate. I’m waiting for someone, you maybe to come up with some evidence that the women at the vigil did something that warranted them being violently suppressed. I mean in the era of social media I’m sure there must be some evidence by now? I thought the Met would be at pains to show that they were well within their rights to act the way they did. The whole debate around the rights and wrongs of the incident could be snuffed out with a video clip or two, surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, 101 said: You do know it's situated in the immediate vicinity of the Parliament? People aren't turning up at the feet of Winston asking for a dig out. Sure seems like a decent crowd tbf. Didn't see any poppies on lapels either! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: I’m not suppressing any debate. I’m waiting for someone, you maybe to come up with some evidence that the women at the vigil did something that warranted them being violently suppressed. I mean in the era of social media I’m sure there must be some evidence by now? I thought the Met would be at pains to show that they were well within their rights to act the way they did. The whole debate around the rights and wrongs of the incident could be snuffed out with a video clip or two, surely? Yep,all those police and no body cams switched on. They are off for a reason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I’m not suppressing any debate. I’m waiting for someone, you maybe to come up with some evidence that the women at the vigil did something that warranted them being violently suppressed. I mean in the era of social media I’m sure there must be some evidence by now? I thought the Met would be at pains to show that they were well within their rights to act the way they did. The whole debate around the rights and wrongs of the incident could be snuffed out with a video clip or two, surely?I have deliberately tried not to take sides in this debate. So I’m not looking to make any defence of the police or anyone else.Just looking at the post above from the female police officer, whilst probably biased, it’s content has started to and will be dismissed out of hand. No discussion re whether any aspects of it may or may not be valid.My concern here is that people are taking positions and deliberately ridiculing anyone who has a different perspective.As I said, there are probably faults in the police and faults in the protestors. The one undeniable fact is that, despite our sympathies to the cause, the protestors were doing so illegally.I’d rather understand what’s really happened rather than take a side. Others on here clearly are unwilling to consider both sides of the argument so it’s pointless even trying..... -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Has Hannah Bardell just leaned hard into the joke or has she completely philpied this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I for one love to play devil's advocate over issues like violent sexual assault and murder. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I for one love to play devil's advocate over issues like violent sexual assault and murder. Good people on both sides imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I for one love to play devil's advocate over issues like violent sexual assault and murder.As far as I know, none of that happened last night.Carry twisting things to suit your needs. It fits in well here.... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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