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Hate Crime Bill Passed


Lyle Lanley

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48 minutes ago, Peil said:

If it's being recorded and kept on file, surely it'll show up in an enhanced disclosure?

If not I've misunderstood

If you’ve been a suspect in a crime and its proven that you’ve not committed a crime or been subject of a malicious complaint then the crime report is marked ‘no crime’ and it would not negatively impact a disclosure check. 

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6 hours ago, Peil said:

So, theoretically, you could fling a complaint in about someone, with no substance, the police investigate, NFA, but you now have it show up on a disclosure check.

Unless something has changed, all Non Crime Hate Incidents are recorded on the Police Scotland Vulnerable Persons Database, which retains information in relation to a range of concerns including a detailed ‘synopsis of the incident and all known nominals’.

This information may be subject to disclosure under an enhanced criminal records check. Police Scotland also share information about people on the VPD with other public bodies such as council social work and education departments, the Crown Office and Prosecution Service, and the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration

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10 minutes ago, Mr Waldo said:

Unless something has changed, all Non Crime Hate Incidents are recorded on the Police Scotland Vulnerable Persons Database, which retains information in relation to a range of concerns including a detailed ‘synopsis of the incident and all known nominals’.

This information may be subject to disclosure under an enhanced criminal records check. Police Scotland also share information about people on the VPD with other public bodies such as council social work and education departments, the Crown Office and Prosecution Service, and the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration

So, it's possible that it may impact someone, even if the complaint is dismissed?

My understanding is that the details are revealed and it's the department/whoever to make a decision based on that report. Doesn't that mean you could have someone negatively impacted by social work or whatever assuming you're racist/transphobic etc. and they'd rather not risk placing a child with you as a foster carer ( for example)

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1 hour ago, alta-pete said:

Pointless piece of legislation that provides a suitably shiny distraction from the myriad other issues that this country’s elected should be focusing on. And we’re falling for it. 

I would totally agree with this. It's not going to be enforceable and defies any sort of common sense. It's all about them looking "progressive".

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27 minutes ago, MazzyStar said:

Everyone engaged in this whole debate is a reactionary. 

Nah,  that's unfair. It's definitely worth bothering about as the "debate" is being shut down.

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2 hours ago, Binos said:

The Scottish Parliament is a project in having power,  whilst not actually having any power 

And watching the total pish they therefore occupy their time coming up with 

Bino's is showing he has completely missed the point whilst not actually having a clue what he is talking about.

The whole debate is around the Scottish Parliament passing legislation. If that is not having power then you completely misunderstand the whole point.

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1 hour ago, andyg83 said:

Nah,  that's unfair. It's definitely worth bothering about as the "debate" is being shut down.

I think the culture wars in general are very reactionary and this legislation has been turned into another tiresome part of the culture wars. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said:

Bino's is showing he has completely missed the point whilst not actually having a clue what he is talking about.

The whole debate is around the Scottish Parliament passing legislation. If that is not having power then you completely misunderstand the whole point.

 

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