Jordi1977 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Slow clap to the Lowland League cowards that essentially allowed all this to progess as far as this with their short sighted 1 season only, oh alright just 1 more season vote to allow colts in! What's absolutely infuriating is, as far as I know, no LL side has ever come out to say "yes, we voted to admit them, we only see this as a good thing" So they knew. The knew that eventually it would turn into a shit show. And here we are. And their league social media/online presence is still shit. Edited March 10, 2023 by Jordi1977 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi1977 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Is there any chance of a fans survey? I mean, obviously I get that the SFA have absolutely no interest in the views of fans (except from maybe two clubs)... but surely they at least have to pretend... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 If the SFA genuinely want to deliver better Scottish internationals, they'll need a bit more than 4 fucking B teams playing a level below League 2's part timers. Try paying for board, lodging, education and coaching along the lines of the French model. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/INF_Clairefontaine We've got performance schools in the current system but it's no more than a passing nod to the way proper countries do this stuff. Also, if B teams were a reason for countries progressing at national level, they would be all through the system adopted by the FA in England. But they're not. Proper youth development costs money. The SFA don't have any. This car crash proposal won't change that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: The SFA board pushed through the pyramid when their president was from Cove Rangers. Lowland League 2013-14 First SPFL Pyramid Playoff 2014-15 Alan McRae becomes President of the SFA June 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Caledonian Braves' manager seems to be against option 3 because it wouldn't allow promotion to the SPFL for the B-sides, and thinks that Scottish Football should be run by a Junta of five right minded representatives, rather than the leagues and clubs. I thought it already was, by a Junta of two. About 30 mins in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I'm expecting the choice the Lowland League will be offered on Monday will be between status quo or option three. Wonder what George Fraser has to say now about his absolutely one year only proposal for B teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Lowland League 2013-14 First SPFL Pyramid Playoff 2014-15 Alan McRae becomes President of the SFA June 2015. ^^^this guy nitpicks my posts like this all the time. What does it matter if it happened when he was vice-president rather than president or whatever. The point that was being made was that there was someone influential on the board pushing that agenda. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm expecting the choice the Lowland League will be offered on Monday will be between status quo or option three. Wonder what George Fraser has to say now about his absolutely one year only proposal for B teams. To be fair he thought it was only one year because they would be in the SPFL by the following year. It wasn't one year and boot them out of the league system again. Edited March 10, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: ^^^this guy nitpicks my posts like this all the time. What does it matter if it happened when he was vice-president rather than president or whatever. The point that was being made was that there was someone influential on the board pushing that agenda. When you make such a mistake it's so easy. From basically Gordon Smith becoming Chief Exec and East Stirlingshire stinking up the SFL there had been momentum for a pyramid. Gretna going bust, McLeish report, Regan's hiring, licencing scheme, the supposed UEFA influence. Yet you boil it all down to Cove & Spartans being some sinister masterminds pulling strings. Edited March 10, 2023 by FairWeatherFan 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, FairWeatherFan said: When you such a mistake it's so easy. From basically Gordon Smith becoming Chief Exec and East Stirlingshire stinking up the SFL there had been momentum for a pyramid. Gretna going bust, McLeish report, Regan's hiring, licencing scheme, the supposed UEFA influence. Yet you boil it all down to Cove & Spartans being some sinister masterminds pulling strings. Welcome to my ignore list again if you are going to waste my time like this. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Operation “Get Rangers and Celtic 2nd Teams to the top of The Scottish Championship” continues apace. Step by dastardly step. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1GregStewart Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Wow. Some stretch of the imagination here to come up with this absolute shambles. As someone else said, what a bunch of useless twats in the LL for allowing this debacle to get an initial head of steam. Morons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, 1GregStewart said: ...As someone else said, what a bunch of useless twats in the LL for allowing this debacle to get an initial head of steam... There was also the U-21 teams entering the Challenge Cup as an initial head of steam. The SPFL board were able to engineer that one. Edited March 10, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: There was also the U-21 teams entering the Challenge Cup as an initial head of steam. The SPFL board were able to engineer that one. The U21 teams mostly do appallingly in the Challenge Cup. Maybe it helped the Old Fir... I mean, the SPFL, to decide that the LL was the right level for B teams. The suggestion of increased crowds and gate receipts for LL clubs as they got leathered by the mini-uglies was one of the selling points but it hasn't proved significant. Will there be much of a crowd-pull about the extra B teams? Absolute car crash. The dead wood LL clubs don't want a competitive league, the Old Firm do, hence this mess with the WoSFL and EoSFL the victims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo'ness Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just to clarify, my team has voted against the B teams on both occasions. This season only underpins our feelings. Whilst last season, the 'novelty' factor brought out the crowds, this year has been a joke. The Rangers match saw a few turn up but the Celtic game was literally only parents, perhaps due to the big team playing at 5.30 that night. I am still of the unequivocal opinion of 'Get them to f**k'. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: To be fair he thought it was only one year because they would be in the SPFL by the following year. It wasn't one year and boot them out of the league system again. Looked like a promise to me. Quote The Scottish Lowland Football League can confirm that the majority of member clubs have voted in favour of admitting Rangers and Celtic ‘B’ teams into the league next season – for one year only. The decision was confirmed at our AGM tonight. Earlier this month all member clubs took part in a discussion with representatives from both Celtic and Rangers before an indicative vote. League chairperson, George Fraser, said: “The member clubs have voted in favour of this proposal that was put to them earlier this month. “Whilst it wasn’t unanimous the majority of member clubs are in favour of it and ultimately the members made the decision, which is only right in a democracy. “Our Board will now get to work on moving forward with plans to get the new season started on July 17.” http://slfl.co.uk/rangers-and-celtic-b-admitted-into-lowland-league/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Welcome to my ignore list again if you are going to waste my time like this. You're a permaraging waste of bandwidth, so do us all favour and hit the sign out button instead. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, iateallthepies said: If my club vote for this they have seen the last of me. You could be stuck in that new league forever. There will be no vote, they can put it in without the need for it. What clubs can do is refuse to take part in it, however they could be swayed by the £40k on offer. Edited March 10, 2023 by Pyramid Watcher 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 This is absolutely horrific, it stinks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, HTG said: If the SFA genuinely want to deliver better Scottish internationals, they'll need a bit more than 4 fucking B teams playing a level below League 2's part timers. Try paying for board, lodging, education and coaching along the lines of the French model. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/INF_Clairefontaine We've got performance schools in the current system but it's no more than a passing nod to the way proper countries do this stuff. Also, if B teams were a reason for countries progressing at national level, they would be all through the system adopted by the FA in England. But they're not. Proper youth development costs money. The SFA don't have any. This car crash proposal won't change that. Mark Wotte when at the SFA started the performance schools which was the first step, the next was to have Regional Academies instead of Club Academies and as soon as that idea surfaced, he was hounded out by the vested interests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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