Prince Philip Deid

[WhiteRoseKillie]

I suppose it's partly to do with how polarised things are. I doubt that's as new as some like to make out, but it certainly has an effect.
Certain groups see certain people as fair game and certain others as completely off-limits for joking about.
There's no way to say this without sounding like a 20th century Boys Brigade leader, but I suppose it comes down to your personal standards. Either you think making fun of people who have just died is ok or you don't.
Thatcher dying was a good example of this. Some people see her as a monster so decided that anything was ok to say about her when she died. Prince Phillip is kind of like a Thatcher-lite in that regard.
I think it's just generally nice to not be putting the boot into someone who's just died. Nobody gains from it.

Rule of thumb: does he/she leave the world poorer for them not being in it, or improved?

If the above does not produce a clear answer: did he/she try to improve the world when they were in it?

For me, the likes of Thatcher fail on the first question, whereas Phil the Greek, and I feel I'm being generous here, gets to the second before failing.

[Homer Thompson]

7 minutes ago, Sweet Pete said:

No, but it looks like you've been desperate to get involved here and charged in after the fact making yourself look a dick. Now off you pop.

[Sweet Pete]

Someone should tell virginton that his decade old patter is being kept alive and well.

[Shandon Par]

53 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Tupac McCathie?

Thug Fife

[SANTAN]

1 hour ago, Tynierose said:

You're easy pleased, Limmy is dreadful.

I quite like him but he is horrendously overrated. His comment sections are full of the most patter devoid people on the planet and there's a frightening amount of people that seem to have "liking Limmy" as being an integral part of their personalities. 

ETA his brother is funnier. 

Edited April 11, 2021 by Stormzy

[Guest TheJTS98]

23 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Rule of thumb: does he/she leave the world poorer for them not being in it, or improved?

If the above does not produce a clear answer: did he/she try to improve the world when they were in it?

For me, the likes of Thatcher fail on the first question, whereas Phil the Greek, and I feel I'm being generous here, gets to the second before failing.

Firstly, I'm aware this isn't the politics thread, and I apologise for going down that route.

However, your answer on the Thatcher question depends on who you ask. I'm no Thatcherite. as I've said on here before, I'm not even a capitalist. But I don't doubt her sincerity in what she was doing and some people who own homes now that they couldn't have owned before will tell you that Thatcher was a hero. Or people who made money they'd never previously dreamed of in The City. Some people from my home town will have a completely different view on that. My point is that it's subjective.

Equally, how much power did Prince Phillip really have to deviate from his course? I'd struggle to offer anyone any guarantees that I'd have done much better with his hand in life. If you can, then fair enough.

This is part of the wider issue with a polarised society. You get certain views within certain groups that become accepted facts that other groups simply do not recognise because their experiences are completely different. There are plenty of people you could meet who would absolutely and sincerely fail to understand why you wouldn't be grateful to Maggie.

That's why I just think that the issue of sticking the boot into a dead person is always just best avoided. We all only see it from our point of view. But that's not the only one.

Edited April 11, 2021 by TheJTS98

[Shuggie_Murray7]

Just tuned into BBC News for a bit - apparently he’s still dead.

[btb]

I note with interest the attempt to rehabilitate Prince Andrew in the wake of his father's death - business as usual for "The Firm" and their hangers on.

[doulikefish]

Grandfather of the nation the nonce of a son says....ffs 

[Archie McSquackle]

Rule of thumb: does he/she leave the world poorer for them not being in it, or improved?

If the above does not produce a clear answer: did he/she try to improve the world when they were in it?

For me, the likes of Thatcher fail on the first question, whereas Phil the Greek, and I feel I'm being generous here, gets to the second before failing.

I've no great feelings one way or the other on him and was not involved in it but the effect the DOE Awards scheme has had on many people suggests to me he did try to make a difference.

[101]

7 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

If it was a run of the mill celebrity to spout the nonsense he had, their career would be over in no time.

Sadly not the case at all look at a certain homophobic rapper getting a lot of well wishes upon his death and there are plenty celebrities that have done worse than Phil and still getting gigs.

These two for instance

[velo army]

56 minutes ago, Mr X said:

lol wut?

I couldnt care less what happened on your part. My post you quoted was directed at another poster.

Do you need a "look at me" gif too?

Modern shite patter thread for this pish.

 

[Guest TheJTS98]

8 minutes ago, 101 said:

Sadly not the case at all look at a certain homophobic rapper getting a lot of well wishes upon his death and there are plenty celebrities that have done worse than Phil and still getting gigs.

These two for instance

One of the worst tv shows to ever get a sympathetic ear from the British public. Appalling.

Not the quality, but the message. Genuinely appalling.

[Fullerene]

1 hour ago, TheJTS98 said:

What are you bass-ing that on?

I think he hit the right note.

[8MileBU]

3 hours ago, GordonS said:

I'll not use the term here again because it's obviously not as widely understood as I thought, but I'll certainly keep using it among my friends, because they know what it means.

And therein lies the problem @GordonSyou thick,  backwards c**t. 

3 hours ago, GordonS said:

Did it not occur to you that they're Catholics?

And that none of use the term to mean anything other than how I described it? I know a priest who uses the term FFS. One that did our wedding and I've been friends with for 25 years.

This is as fkn stupid as white people compalining about black people calling each other the N word.

*complaining

Where to even begin with the rest of this post...

3 hours ago, Mr X said:

Clearly not done with this.

But really should be done with this

Sin bin the clown.

[Guest TheJTS98]

5 minutes ago, Fullerene said:

I think he hit the right note.

What are you bass-ing that on?

I've used that line before, but I won't fret about it.

[8MileBU]

40 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

I quite like him but he is horrendously overrated. His comment sections are full of the most patter devoid people on the planet and there's a frightening amount of people that seem to have "liking Limmy" as being an integral part of their personalities. 

ETA his brother is funnier. 

He’s definitely not but I think @GordonS might be Limmy’s  brother.

[SANTAN]

31 minutes ago, Pato said:

Would you be willing to link to anything specific that David Limond has said that you think is funny?

I don't think he posts much publically tbf but that was also a massive piece of insincere bait. 

I always think it's funny the differences between the two of them and think it probably goes a decent way in explaining some of Limmys political/social views. I think they're closer now than they were at one point which is nice to see. 

[SANTAN]

9 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

He’s definitely not but I think @GordonS might be Limmy’s  brother.

Lolwut?

I can't imagine them getting along well tbf. 

[Homer Thompson]

16 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:

And therein lies the problem @GordonSyou thick,  backwards c**t. 

*complaining

Where to even begin with the rest of this post...

Sin bin the clown.

Ah, the sin bin. We should definitely bring that back