Euro 2020 Final - England vs Italy

[A_Veitch]

1 hour ago, TheScarf said:

There's a new drug on the streets they believe originates in Czechoslovakia named 'cake'.

Heard that stuff makes a second feel like a month. very dangerous stuff.

[Bairnardo]

Folk arent claiming its racist to laugh at Chiellini bodying Saka now are they?

[Karpaty Lviv]

On 11/07/2021 at 22:42, kent_don said:

Incredible home made effort here

 

[Gordon EF]

42 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Youngsters putting themselves in front of trains is not unknown though.  In fact it's not unknown for young footballers to do that either.

The images are amusing in themselves, but there is something a bit uncomfortable about them, given that their 'victim' is a young footballer, currently under immense pressure having been treated despicably.

Savage Henry hasn't got this wrong in my view.

I think everyone has that little pang of discomfort where your brain goes "Oooft, a white man dragging a black man by the collar. Feels a little bit racist. Is it racist?"

But surely the answer is "No. Because nothing about the incident or the memes afterwards is about race." It would be just as funny (actually multiple times funnier) if it had been Foden or Grealish instead of Saka because most people probably like or have nothing against Saka even if they're having a laugh about the photo.

Is it not really a bit 'white saviour' to try and shield or exclude anyone who isn't white from stuff like this?

Edited July 15, 2021 by Gordon EF

[Bairnardo]

I think everyone has that little pang of discomfort where your brain goes "Oooft, a white man dragging a black man by the collar. Feels a little bit racist. Is it racist?"
But surely the answer is "No. Because nothing about the incident or the memes afterwards is about race." It would be just as funny (actually multiple times funnier) if it had been Foden or Grealish instead of Saka because most people probably like or have nothing against Saka even if they're having a laugh about the photo.
Is it not really a bit 'white saviour' to try and shield or exclude anyone who isn't white from stuff like this?

Personally I find the whole thing a bit patronising towards Saka. Anyone seeking a race angle in this has him as skin colour first, footballer second.

Chiellini has been iconic this tournament, and for years in general as being the rough and tumble defender who, in the stereotypical Italian mould, will do stuff like that when needed.

Everything about that foul was everything people live about Chiellini, a man who has been front and centre of the tournament from the opening game.

[Monkey Tennis]

My discomfort had little to do with race, as outlined in what I actually wrote.

[Gordon EF]

1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said:

My discomfort had little to do with race, as outlined in what I actually wrote.

Well the despicable treatment he's receiving is largely racist in nature. It's fair to have assumed that's what you were alluding to.

[Bairnardo]

My discomfort had little to do with race, as outlined in what I actually wrote.

Is it about the train track gif then?

[Marshmallo]

16 hours ago, Mr. Alli said:

This thread was decent when nearly everyone was slagging England. All gone a bit flat a minterish, tbh. 

Every thread that goes a lot of pages on here is the same. An abysmal troll turns up and a bunch of middle aged lads who think they're dunking on someone who's being serious continue to post the same tedious replies ad nauseum. 

[Merkie84]

53 minutes ago, A_Veitch said:

Heard that stuff makes a second feel like a month. very dangerous stuff.

It is especially dangerous because it is a made up drug. 

[Monkey Tennis]

12 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

Well the despicable treatment he's receiving is largely racist in nature. It's fair to have assumed that's what you were alluding to.

Yes it was, but the crux of my issue with it, is to do with him throwing himself in front of a train. 

It's not the nicest idea.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

All those trying to work out how the Saka/train gag can be offensive without referring to his race:

Just Google Robert Enke.

[19QOS19]

Calling bullshit here. Given how good a state those chairs are there's absolutely no danger there were England fans watching the game there.

[A_Veitch]

48 minutes ago, Merkie84 said:

It is especially dangerous because it is a made up drug. 

Wooooooosh.

[Dunning1874]

5 minutes ago, A_Veitch said:

Wooooooosh.

It's made up from chemicals by... sick b*****ds.

[welshbairn]

7 minutes ago, A_Veitch said:

Wooooooosh.

Double wooosh

[ewan14]

Just thinking about how close Southgate came to being a legend as opposed to not !

Even though his team was on the defensive side he very , very nearly did the job. Wouls any other ( realistic ) choice of manager been as successful ?

( with a more creative team )

 

 

 

 

[A_Veitch]

8 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

It's made up from chemicals by... sick b*****ds.

Desimeric Andersonaphote

Edited July 15, 2021 by A_Veitch

[ewan14]

1 hour ago, ewan14 said:

Just thinking about how close Southgate came to being a legend as opposed to not !

Even though his team was on the defensive side he very , very nearly did the job. Would any other ( realistic ) choice of manager been as successful ?

( with a more creative team )

 

 

 

 

 

[19QOS19]

All those trying to work out how the Saka/train gag can be offensive without referring to his race:
Just Google Robert Enke.

Enke (sadly) committed suicide. The joke in the gif is Chiellini saving him from being hit by train when a lot of English supporters were complaining Chiellini had all but assaulted Saka.

It's in no way a joke about suicide. To get worked up about it is just ridiculous. It could be applied to him stopping Saka from jumping off a cliff, it's still not taking the piss out of suicide.

I think folk need to stop looking into things like this too deeply tbh or we'll not be allowed to laugh at anything for fear of folk being offended.

I'm not suggesting you're offended FWIW, I know you just highlighted Enke's case.