Enigma Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Is it not more just the case that if you’re a marketable asset like Kanye is your record label is going to invest more time in you and assign the best producers going etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 People claiming Kanye West is the most important artist of the 21st century are clearly deliberately overlooking the endless talents of Daniel Bedingfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, scottsdad said: People claiming Kanye West is the most important artist of the 21st century are clearly deliberately overlooking the endless talents of Daniel Bedingfield. Whatever happened to him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Whatever happened to him? Changed his name to Kanye West. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, JMDP said: A 6 week course to produce the type of music Kanye does is one of the wildest takes I've seen on here. I'm looking forward to being to write Revolver or Is this it after a couple of guitar lessons. Aye, that's exactly what was meant. I'll politely bow out here as clearly I'm missing something about Mr Ye. The most influential musician of the century, amazing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Richey Edwards said: Whatever happened to him? He didn’t get through this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 A genius if he's managed to sell them, the top shoe in particular I bet cost pennies to make and I'm sure it's $100+ to buy.Times that $100 by five or six. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I’m a big fan of many musical genres and go to a fair amount of gigs. I’ve been known to enjoy a variety of rap groups and solo artists, but couldn’t name one single Kanye west song, or recognise a song if I heard it. Am I just old now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, mathematics said: I’m a big fan of many musical genres and go to a fair amount of gigs. I’ve been known to enjoy a variety of rap groups and solo artists, but couldn’t name one single Kanye west song, or recognise a song if I heard it. Am I just old now? I was in that boat until I recently found out that I'd heard Black Skinhead on a million adverts and in films. It's shite, but I'm willing to believe that he must have done a lot of good stuff that I've just never been exposed to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, mathematics said: I’m a big fan of many musical genres and go to a fair amount of gigs. I’ve been known to enjoy a variety of rap groups and solo artists, but couldn’t name one single Kanye west song, or recognise a song if I heard it. Am I just old now? I'm 38 and this thread might as well be in Arabic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, mathematics said: I’m a big fan of many musical genres and go to a fair amount of gigs. I’ve been known to enjoy a variety of rap groups and solo artists, but couldn’t name one single Kanye west song, or recognise a song if I heard it. Am I just old now? If you've never heard this you're probably deaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, mathematics said: I’m a big fan of many musical genres and go to a fair amount of gigs. I’ve been known to enjoy a variety of rap groups and solo artists, but couldn’t name one single Kanye west song, or recognise a song if I heard it. Am I just old now? Same here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Same here. You’re a Morissey fan. Your opinion on music does not count. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rugster said: You’re a Morissey fan. Your opinion on music does not count. Thank you. I think you'll find that it does. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: If you've never heard this you're probably deaf I was aware of that song through gifs, but genuinely had no idea Kanye West was in it. Thought it was solely Daft Punk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 A 6 week course to produce the type of music Kanye does is one of the wildest takes I've seen on here. I'm looking forward to being to write Revolver or Is this it after a couple of guitar lessons. I think Kanye is probably the most influential musician of this century for a lot of the reasons [mention=58552]SANTAN[/mention] put above. Every album is brilliant in it's own right and his catalogue overall stacks up against anyone else IMO. His debut was groundbreaking (nothing like Jesus Walks was getting made when he dropped it), 808's went against the grain of everything else produced at the time and MBDTF is a masterpiece. In terms of lyrics, he might not have the lyrical dexterity of someone like Wretch, but there are some amazing examples of great stuff (the sweetness of Hey Mama, honesty of Runaway, wordplay on Gone etc). The other main thing about him, I think is quite overlooked is his ability to bring the best out of others - Nicki Minaj on Monster, Chance on Ultralight Beam, Cam'Ron and Consequence on Gone, Pusha T on Runaway. His drive and work ethic pushed those around him to better things. I know it's not for everyone but I think it's hard to deny his genius and influence. I remember Clive Martin saying during Kanye’s Glasto set “yeah you can object to him but who’s a bigger rockstar than him at this point? His competition are all ageing rockstars and beige white Tories” and that’s how I feel. A ton of the criticisms are valid but he has a ton of hits and is largely an artist who’s free of corporate influence that’s disappointingly rare for someone of that magnitude in the modern music industry. Is it not more just the case that if you’re a marketable asset like Kanye is your record label is going to invest more time in you and assign the best producers going etc.I can confidently say from reading interviews with people like Hudson Mohawke (Pollokshields born and raised) that Kanye collates and sources the producers for his albums. People like Pusha and Chief Keef have also shouted him out for sourcing them out to feature on his album. I think Nicki Minaj whose best verse is on a Kanye track (Monster) was approached by Kanye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, mathematics said: I was aware of that song through gifs, but genuinely had no idea Kanye West was in it. Thought it was solely Daft Punk. the solely Daft Punk version is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: the solely Daft Punk version is A Mrs Mathematics had informed me otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: If you've never heard this you're probably deaf That was him? A fucking awful cover of Daft Punk? Fair play to him for making money out of that. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, BFTD said: That was him? A fucking awful cover of Daft Punk? Fair play to him for making money out of that. Thanks to you I've looked up Black Skinhead. This isn't genre-defining, it's SkyBet advert music. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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